The Raptors and the 2015 Draft

[Chr1s1anL]

Lowry and DD for the 4th overall pick. Lowry and JV for the 4th overall pick.

Raptors Republic posters overhyping draft picks/prospects as usual. Sigh.

Too use to being in the lottery. Consecutive years out lottery new ground for RR members.

[Primer]

Guys, if this draft had 4-5 great players, then the Knicks wouldn't be looking to trade the pick. The Knicks are hugely disappointed they won't get one of the top 2 guys, and probably upset they'll get the lesser of the top two PGs. They aren't looking to trade it just to trade it, they're doing it because they see the talent drop off after Towns and Okafor. If they had a top 2 pick I guarantee they would be keeping it.

Demar and the 20th pick actually seems like a damn good return for the 4th pick. Especially for a team looking to get better now. Russell and Mudiay are going to take a few years, and might never become elite, which is what you want when you tank like the Knicks did. The Knicks are trying to salvage the tank job and turning it into an All Star SG seems like a good way to salvage it.

[saints91]

Honestly you guys are completely over reacting to the second half of the season. We have good pieces, we just need the proper role players and a better offensive system. I would keep Lowry, DeMar, JV, PP, Ross, Bruno, and Bebe. The rest can go. Due to DeMar's lack of outside shooting we need a SF the can shoot the 3. We also need a stretch 4. Over the next two seasons we have money and three first round draft picks to get what we need.

I find it amazing how quickly people turned on Lowry. I know DD has always been harshly viewed on this site, but I think he is an above average SG. To blow this team up would be a big mistake, we are just gaining momentum. Build up, not rip down.

I think we draft one of Portis (may have to trade down), Justin Anderson, Harrell, Lyles, Tyus, or Grant. We can grow from there. I have a feeling this off-season there will be some good changes.

[Uncle_Si]

Vasquez and Ross would be significant upgrades and might be enough to get the #4 pick. That's 2 solid players that would instantly become the 2nd and 3rd best players on the Knicks. (Shows how bad they really are). At this point the Knicks need NBA level talent, forget trying to get stars they literally have no nba talent

[Axel]

Since Jackson seems quite intent on proving the triangle works, DD seems like a fit there stylistically. All depends on what Phil thinks about Russell, Mudiay, Winslow, Porzingis or Hezonja. Don't think anyone can really predict what Phil is thinking.

[Uncle_Si]

Since Jackson seems quite intent on proving the triangle works, DD seems like a fit there stylistically. All depends on what Phil thinks about Russell, Mudiay, Winslow, Porzingis or Hezonja. Don't think anyone can really predict what Phil is thinking.

Not to mention DeMar thinks he's Kobe

[Axel]

Not to mention DeMar thinks he's Kobe

#ProveEm

[Axel]

SI just released their newest mock (post-lottery)

http://www.si.com/nba/2015/05/20/nba...-lakers-knicks

Some interesting picks:

Kings taking Kaminsky (arguing the fit for playing next to Boogie):
Too high for Kaminsky? First you have to identify what his major flaws are. Kaminsky is a smooth shooting big who can score off the dribble and from beyond the three-point line. The Kings have a gaping hole at power forward, and Kaminsky could complement DeMarcus Cousins nicely. There are issues defensively, but few better scoring options for George Karl’s offense.

Raps @ 20 getting Tyus Jones
Jones was among the most impressive players in interviews at the combine, showing uncanny polish, a demeanor that mirrors Jones’s play on the floor. The Raptors targeted a point guard in the first round last season—Phoenix grabbed Tyler Ennis before they could—and will do the same this year.

[thead]

SPhoenix grabbed Tyler Ennis before they could—and will do the same this year.

ballsy move Phoenix...drafting the same guy two years in a row...well played

[Primer]

Honestly you guys are completely over reacting to the second half of the season. We have good pieces, we just need the proper role players and a better offensive system. I would keep Lowry, DeMar, JV, PP, Ross, Bruno, and Bebe. The rest can go. Due to DeMar's lack of outside shooting we need a SF the can shoot the 3. We also need a stretch 4. Over the next two seasons we have money and three first round draft picks to get what we need.

I find it amazing how quickly people turned on Lowry. I know DD has always been harshly viewed on this site, but I think he is an above average SG. To blow this team up would be a big mistake, we are just gaining momentum. Build up, not rip down.

I think we draft one of Portis (may have to trade down), Justin Anderson, Harrell, Lyles, Tyus, or Grant. We can grow from there. I have a feeling this off-season there will be some good changes.

I'm not sure what momentum we have after playing terrible the second half of the season and falling on our faces in the playoffs. I just don't see how a few tweaks turns this roster into anything better than a competitive first round playoff team, and that really should not be the goal.

Also, you have to think about HOW we would get that stretch 4 and SF who would shoot the 3. It's basically impossible without moving one or more of our core pieces.

[Chr1s1anL]

SI just released their newest mock (post-lottery)

http://www.si.com/nba/2015/05/20/nba...-lakers-knicks

Some interesting picks:

Kings taking Kaminsky (arguing the fit for playing next to Boogie):
Too high for Kaminsky? First you have to identify what his major flaws are. Kaminsky is a smooth shooting big who can score off the dribble and from beyond the three-point line. The Kings have a gaping hole at power forward, and Kaminsky could complement DeMarcus Cousins nicely. There are issues defensively, but few better scoring options for George Karl’s offense.

Raps @ 20 getting Tyus Jones
Jones was among the most impressive players in interviews at the combine, showing uncanny polish, a demeanor that mirrors Jones’s play on the floor. The Raptors targeted a point guard in the first round last season—Phoenix grabbed Tyler Ennis before they could—and will do the same this year.

Grant > Jones

[Axel]

ballsy move Phoenix...drafting the same guy two years in a row...well played

lol


PS - I hope you're joking....

[stretch]

Grant > Jones

Grant is exciting and could be a rotation player right away in the NBA. Jones is much younger, though, by 3 and a half years. Something to consider.

[grindhouse]

SI just released their newest mock (post-lottery)

http://www.si.com/nba/2015/05/20/nba...-lakers-knicks

Some interesting picks:

Kings taking Kaminsky (arguing the fit for playing next to Boogie):
Too high for Kaminsky? First you have to identify what his major flaws are. Kaminsky is a smooth shooting big who can score off the dribble and from beyond the three-point line. The Kings have a gaping hole at power forward, and Kaminsky could complement DeMarcus Cousins nicely. There are issues defensively, but few better scoring options for George Karl’s offense.

Raps @ 20 getting Tyus Jones
Jones was among the most impressive players in interviews at the combine, showing uncanny polish, a demeanor that mirrors Jones’s play on the floor. The Raptors targeted a point guard in the first round last season—Phoenix grabbed Tyler Ennis before they could—and will do the same this year.

Undersized can't guard his position and is not a upgrade over Lou next


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[tenforthewin]

if we stay at No20, we are getting either Trey Lyles or Montrezl Harrell. We use Tyus Jones as a smokescreen so some team ahead of us will grab him and leave our true intention of draft pick in Lyles or Harrell.