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George Karl: Casey 'one of the best coaches' in NBA
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3inthekeon wrote: View PostIs Casey one of the best coaches in the NBA? Well considering there are 30 coaches, the top[ 15 are technically the best. Is Casey top 5? Maybe, maybe not, though I personally don't see him top 5. Is he top 15? I do see him that way, although I'm not delusional enough to actually believe I can make any sort of informed judgement.
He definitely is good enough for Masai, which speaks far more tellingly than fawning by his old boss or incessant criticism by some on this board.
He is totally good enough for Masai right now.
Hence the 2 year, team option for year 3.
Not a ringing endorsement but good enough for right now.
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I tried to rank the active coaches I would rather (or not rather) have. Feel free to shit all over it.
Living Legends — Untouchable coaches that will never be available, ever
1. Gregg Popovich
2. Rick Carlisle
No Brainers — you’d replace Casey in a heartbeat with these guys.
3. Tom Thibodeau
4. Terry Stotts
Historically exceptional coach that is stealth tanking
5. Stan Van Gundy
Prospects — Coaches you’d replace Casey with based on potential, reputation or both
6. Erik Spoelstra
7. Steve Kerr
8. Mike Budenholzer
9. David Joerger
— Dwane Casey Threshold --
Lateral Moves — Coaches that are probably as good or better than Casey, but you wouldn’t fire Casey just to get them
10. Lionel Hollins
12. Jeff Hornacek
13. Brad Stevens
14. Mike Malone
Obviously a good coach that can’t be trusted offensively
15. Frank Vogel
Used to coaching far less talented players, thus can’t prove himself as an NBA coach
16. David Blatt
Kevin O’Neill Back-Stab Potential — A coach that might be good but Masai would never hire
17. Jason Kidd
Overrated (Coaches with teams that would probably perform just as well, or better, with any of the above coaches except Vogel)
18. Doc Rivers
19. Scott Brooks
20. Kevin McHale
Meh coaches
21. Randy Wittman
22. Flip Saunders
I have no idea
23. Monty Williams
24. Quin Synder
25. Brett Brown
26. Steve Clifford
Shit Ass Crap — Coaches that have proven they suck
27. Jacque Vaughn
28. Brian Shaw
29. Bryon Scott
30. Tyrone Corbin
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white men can't jump wrote: View PostIs this post directed at me? If so I basically said the same thing....yet somehow have it backwards? You seem to have focused on "post-up bigs", whereas I used the term traditional bigs, as I meant to imply guys who tend to play closer to the basket, which even energy guys (Chandler/Wright) are.
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KeonClark wrote: View PostAh that explains everything. Must be how you found out the cavs would finish 8th as well.For still frame photograph of me reading the DeRozan thread please refer to my avatar
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thead wrote: View PostSo...fun story...
Not going to say how I know but I with 100% certainty know that Triano was frequently furious with the meddling from upper management. Colangelo did not want the stigma of blowing a number 1 pick and meddled relentlessly.
Triano got a raw deal.
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TRex wrote: View Post
George Karl's team never got out of the 1st round? ever heard of his Sonics team back in the mid 90's? one of the best teams in the league. Made the NBA Finals back in 96. Lost to Michael Jordan's Bulls in 6 games.
But anyhow, i still don't know why so much hate on Casey here lol. I still remember Triano's last yr here. We were one of the worst defensive teams in the league, top 5 worst i believe. One of the worst teams in the league period. Triano got fired in the offseason, Casey got hired. The following season the Raps all of a sudden became one of the best defensive teams in the league w/ pretty much the same personnel as the yr before. Offensively this year, the Raps are 2nd behind GSW in offensive efficiency. Last yr i believe the Raps were top 10 in both defence and offence.
DeRozan became an all star under Casey. Lowry became Lowry under Casey.
Culture has changed. Everything is just different since Casey took over and yet some people here want him fired smh. And btw, the Raps are 19-6. Best record in the EC.
Year 1 - 23 wins.
Year 2 - 34 wins.
Year 3 - 48 wins.
Year 4 - ???
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obviously
THESE COACHES WILL WIN YOU GAMES YOU SHOULDN'T WIN
1.) Pop
2.) Thibs
3.) Doc
4.) Rick
THESE GUYS WILL WIN YOU CLOSE GAMES
5.) Stotts
6.) SVG
THESE GUYS ARE GREAT TEACHERS/MOTIVATORS AND GOOD COACHES
7.) Brett Brown
8.) Budenholzer
9.) Casey
10.) Stevens
MIDDLE OF THE ROAD
11.) Flip
12.) Spoelstra
13.) Wittman
14.) McHale
15.) Brooks
THE JURY IS OUT ON
Fisher/Kerr and Blatt
there my two cents for what it's worthFor still frame photograph of me reading the DeRozan thread please refer to my avatar
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CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View PostIs it bad that a small part of me wonders what Triano could do offensively, with a group as talented as this year's Raptors team? He forgot that the basketball court had two ends, but he was a good x's & o's guy and his teams were always pretty good on the offensive side of the ball. It wouldn't be pretty, but I bet this team could eek out a bunch of 128-116 type wins
Yes, the defense was a tire fire. But, Colangelo drew up a team for him with exactly one above average defender in the rotation (Amir) and four abysmal defenders in the starting lineup (young Demar, Hedo, Jose and Bargs). I know Triano's offense fell apart the next year, but seriously, look at the roster. It's every bit the predictable defensive disaster of the 2014 Lakers, say.@EdTubb - edwardtubb at gmail
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bryan colangelo wrote: View PostMy bad. Your statement about Lebron threw me off. Thought you were suggesting unless you have Lebron (an elite perimeter player), you need bigs in the post.
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CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View PostIs it bad that a small part of me wonders what Triano could do offensively, with a group as talented as this year's Raptors team? He forgot that the basketball court had two ends, but he was a good x's & o's guy and his teams were always pretty good on the offensive side of the ball. It wouldn't be pretty, but I bet this team could eek out a bunch of 128-116 type winsI'm back. I no longer worship joe johnson
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Triano was out of his depth as a head coach but he was also given a horrible roster. He had no chance.
Casey got too much blame two years ago and probably too much credit last year. Of course, I am one of those people that believes that 90% of coaches are interchangeable, so I am biased.
Casey's game management (rotations, time outs, situational play calling) are miles ahead of two years ago. He has a much better staff and they are much better prepared. It also doesn't hurt that he has the most talented, deepest Raptor squad ever assembled.
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