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  • #31
    mcHAPPY wrote: View Post
    He can sign where he wants but the uktimate decision where he plays rests with Ohilly.
    They have the right to match any offer he gets. Hopefully he gets a Chandler Parsons/Gordon Hayward type offer. In Parsons case, the Rockets opted to let him walk. In Hayward's case, the Jazz chose to match. He's been professional about his situation, played well & has demonstrated a flexibility/versatility that could attract a number of suitors. If Philly re-signs him, they're probably going to have to pay him a lot. The teams I mentioned earlier will have the money to make some significant offers.

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    • #32
      If a team offers a two year deal, he'd end up a restricted free agent again at the end of it. He's best off to sign as big a deal money wise as he can for 3 years. Even if he signs his qualifying offer, he'd end up RFA again at the end of the year.
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      • #33
        JordanMariam14 wrote: View Post
        He's a free agent. Don't worry
        ^ This

        Unrestricted at that

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        • #34
          Oran wrote: View Post
          ^ This

          Unrestricted at that
          Er, no. Restricted.
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          • #35
            DanH wrote: View Post
            Er, no. Restricted.
            No, he's an unrestricted free agent. Signed a 1 year non-guaranteed contract at league minimum salary (probably so he can get the hell out of Philly this summer).

            If you still want to argue, read it for yourself: http://www.businessinsider.com/kj-mc...ntract-2014-12

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            • #36
              EverythingBlaxx wrote: View Post
              No, he's an unrestricted free agent. Signed a 1 year non-guaranteed contract at league minimum salary (probably so he can get the hell out of Philly this summer).

              If you still want to argue, read it for yourself: http://www.businessinsider.com/kj-mc...ntract-2014-12
              This is from the link you posted:

              They can make McDaniels a restricted free agent with a one-year, $1.2 million qualifying offer — guaranteeing themselves the right to match any offer McDaniels receives from another team. If McDaniels blows up, the Sixers can match such an offer or just re-sign him into their cap space. If he doesn’t, McDaniels could just sign that $1.2 million qualifying offer and enter restricted free agency again a year later.

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              • #37
                EverythingBlaxx wrote: View Post
                No, he's an unrestricted free agent. Signed a 1 year non-guaranteed contract at league minimum salary (probably so he can get the hell out of Philly this summer).

                If you still want to argue, read it for yourself: http://www.businessinsider.com/kj-mc...ntract-2014-12
                Yeah, dude, you are way off. Thanks Primer.

                Any player with 3 years or less experience is a RFA so long as his team extends the QO. That's just the way it works. That's why in his case even if he signs the QO, he'll be restricted again at the end of the next season, unlike guys coming off their rookie scale deal qualifying offers.
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                • #38
                  DanH wrote: View Post
                  Yeah, dude, you are way off. Thanks Primer.

                  Any player with 3 years or less experience is a RFA so long as his team extends the QO. That's just the way it works. That's why in his case even if he signs the QO, he'll be restricted again at the end of the next season, unlike guys coming off their rookie scale deal qualifying offers.
                  It's the Chandler Parsons type situation. Except Parson was an even bigger surprise from the second round.

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                  • #39
                    EverythingBlaxx wrote: View Post
                    No, he's an unrestricted free agent. Signed a 1 year non-guaranteed contract at league minimum salary (probably so he can get the hell out of Philly this summer).

                    If you still want to argue, read it for yourself: http://www.businessinsider.com/kj-mc...ntract-2014-12
                    How about you read it for yourself lmfao
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                    • #40
                      raptors999 wrote: View Post
                      It's the Chandler Parsons type situation. Except Parson was an even bigger surprise from the second round.
                      Well, the Parsons situation was a little more interesting. The Rockets had him locked into a 4 year deal, but the 4th year was a team option. So if they kept him, he'd be very cheap this year, but next summer he'd be an unrestricted free agent, since he would be past the three years experience range. But if they declined his option (which they did), he would hit restricted free agency last summer, meaning he would make more money, but they could match whatever long term deal he signed, giving them more guaranteed years with him in the fold. Of course, they ended up being scared off by the value of the contract, so they got neither, which is hilarious.
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                      • #41
                        DanH wrote: View Post
                        Well, the Parsons situation was a little more interesting. The Rockets had him locked into a 4 year deal, but the 4th year was a team option. So if they kept him, he'd be very cheap this year, but next summer he'd be an unrestricted free agent, since he would be past the three years experience range. But if they declined his option (which they did), he would hit restricted free agency last summer, meaning he would make more money, but they could match whatever long term deal he signed, giving them more guaranteed years with him in the fold. Of course, they ended up being scared off by the value of the contract, so they got neither, which is hilarious.
                        Morey really does interesting things. Signing a second rounder to a long term deal for instance. Too bad it wasn't really a great benefit to him in the end. Interesting to see what kind of deal DeAndre Danials gets. He is better than what is usually available second round and would be probably a late first rounder in 2015.

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                        • #42
                          Those 2+2 deals are more and more common for second rounders. But their agents have started pushing guys not to accept them, even lately going so far as the McDaniels contract to allow for higher earnings more quickly.
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                          • #43
                            DanH wrote: View Post
                            Those 2+2 deals are more and more common for second rounders. But their agents have started pushing guys not to accept them, even lately going so far as the McDaniels contract to allow for higher earnings more quickly.
                            Not sure how much leverage second rounders command. Most are lucky to get an NBA roster spot.

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                            • #44
                              bryan colangelo wrote: View Post
                              Lots of teams passed on KJ McDaniel.
                              This needs to be stressed.

                              KJ McDaniels is looking like an NBA player, and that's great. Specifically, he's looking like a younger, slightly smaller version of James Johnson. Really, it's kind of uncanny: he's an athletic blocking wing who can't shoot a lick. Johnson isn't a starter and, as good as he's been for us, he'll never be one on a permanent basis so long as he can't shoot from distance.

                              McDaniels, at present, doesn't project as a starter either; the reason he's starting is because the 76ers' other shooting guards are Hollis Thompson (even worse shooter and probably back in the D-League after this season) and Jason Richardson (injured, possibly career over).

                              He's a good young player and he'll have a decent career. It's doubtful he becomes an All-Star level player, though.

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                              • #45
                                magoon wrote: View Post
                                This needs to be stressed.

                                KJ McDaniels is looking like an NBA player, and that's great. Specifically, he's looking like a younger, slightly smaller version of James Johnson. Really, it's kind of uncanny: he's an athletic blocking wing who can't shoot a lick. Johnson isn't a starter and, as good as he's been for us, he'll never be one on a permanent basis so long as he can't shoot from distance.

                                McDaniels, at present, doesn't project as a starter either; the reason he's starting is because the 76ers' other shooting guards are Hollis Thompson (even worse shooter and probably back in the D-League after this season) and Jason Richardson (injured, possibly career over).

                                He's a good young player and he'll have a decent career. It's doubtful he becomes an All-Star level player, though.
                                Difference is JJ can post and drive against NBA defenders.KJ projects as a Ronnie Brewer, PJ Tucker before he got a shot. NBA players need to have at least one way to score. IMHO, Jermai Grant will follow JJ or MKG as a defensive wing who can score a little on drives and cuts.

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