#FireCasey

[Chr1s1anL]

Also like to add Raptors have the second best record in the conference(21-8)

[Other Scott]

The Raptors offensive rating in the regular season was 112.7.
The Raptors offensive rating in the playoffs was 108.2.

The Raptors points per game in the regular season was 101.3.
The Raptors PPG in the playoffs was 96.1.

The Raptors OffRTG was average in the playoffs (108.2) - 8th of 16 teams.
The Ratpors DefRTG was also average (110.0) - 8th of 16.


If you take out game three where they scored 115 points the numbers get much uglier - and closer to the truth.


**The full season numbers also take in to account the ugly Gay start to season. So the drop off in the playoffs was even more disturbing.

Why does removing the best game make things closer to the truth? There were only 7 of them, you can't just go removing data points and say, "Oh, here's the real data."

Stooley, I've agreed with every post you made so far. Golden State was a mess behind the scenes last year, and that was the main reason they let go of Mark Jackson.

And I would really like to see proof (or any evidence at all) of this "refs stop blowing the whistle in the playoffs". I believe it in hockey, but basketball is kind of different. It's certainly not true in football.

[SamMitchells]

Also like to add Raptors have the second best record in the conference(21-8)

Shitty conference in the worst division and an easy schedule.
At least their winning the games they should have won.
Now we patiently wait to see If they can beat a team with over 500 record post LAC .

[mcHAPPY]

Its called "The Playoffs" for a reason. Every teams numbers drop in the playoffs. Every team is least efficient in the playoffs.

Lucky were so good at scoring in the paint.

Really.

hmmmm.

Why did the Rockets, Spurs, Heat, Nets, Clippers, Warriors, and Bulls all improve their OffRtg last year in playoffs?


You clearly missed the point of conversation. Raptors went to a more ISO-centric offense last year in the playoffs and they regressed in offensive output.

[SamMitchells]

Also like to add Raptors have the second best record in the conference(21-8)

Washington this Saturday and clippers next Friday . Games to look out for my dude

[Chr1s1anL]

Shitty conference in the worst division and an easy schedule.
At least their winning the games they should have won.
Now we patiently wait to see If they can beat a team with over 500 record post LAC .

That's what good teams do. Win the games your suppose to.

[mcHAPPY]

Why does removing the best game make things closer to the truth? There were only 7 of them, you can't just go removing data points and say, "Oh, here's the real data."

Stooley, I've agreed with every post you made so far. Golden State was a mess behind the scenes last year, and that was the main reason they let go of Mark Jackson.

And I would really like to see proof (or any evidence at all) of this "refs stop blowing the whistle in the playoffs". I believe it in hockey, but basketball is kind of different. It's certainly not true in football.

103
83
115
87
98
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47.8%
38.5%
53.3%
41.3%
46.3%
47.4%
39.4%



Which numbers stand out as extremes relative to the others?
Which numbers are well above average?
Which numbers are well above mean?

[SamMitchells]

That's what good teams do. Win the games your suppose to.

I agree and applaud them for that, which is why I continue watching them. If they were losing the games they were suppose to win, I probably would find a new hobby.

Now lets see can they win a fricking playoff round without having to play vs the worst team that enters the playoff? Will they jack up contested 3's with 1 second left on the clock due to no organized offence?

When's the last time we saw our point guards running down the floor with one hand up calling a play !? I think that stuff matters. luls

[3inthekeon]

Really sucks that every East team other than the Knicks and 76's are still in the playoff hunt. Even 14th place Orlando is only 6 1/2 games behind 7th seed Miami.

Really hope Indiana drops and Hill is back to form soon, because C. J. Watson is someone who's defensive strength is our biggest weakness - containing dribble penetration. He's not good enough elsewhere to cost a lot and is expiring but I can't see the Pacers dealing him as long as they think they can make the playoffs.

[Other Scott]

Shitty conference in the worst division and an easy schedule.

They've actually played a lower percentage of games in division than they have against the other two divisions in the East. 8 games against Atlantic, an average of 10.5 against the Central and Southeast. Their division doesn't have anything to do with why they have a high Eastern Conference record. And they've already played 3 against the Hawks, 2 against the Bulls and 3 against the Cavs. Their East schedule is about as tough as it could be considering that it is the East.

[Other Scott]

103
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115
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98
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47.8%
38.5%
53.3%
41.3%
46.3%
47.4%
39.4%



Which numbers stand out as extremes relative to the others?
Which numbers are well above average?
Which numbers are well above mean?

Can we throw the 83 pt game out for being well below the mean as well? That's not how stats work. You don't just throw out the numbers that seem high and say it was unrepresentative unless there's a good reason to do so (very impactful extenuating circumstances, which in this case there were not).

[3inthekeon]

Can we throw the 83 pt game out for being well below the mean as well? That's not how stats work. You don't just throw out the numbers that seem high and say it was unrepresentative unless there's a good reason to do so (very impactful extenuating circumstances, which in this case there were not).

Also throw out John Salmons stats and add Lou Williams while you're at it.

[Chr1s1anL]

Raptors are 7-7 in January. With two games left they have a chance to go over .500. Who would of thought after the way this month started. Team is finally getting healthy(6-3 with DD back 19-6 overall). The fact DD has only played 25 games this year and were 31-15. That's a testament to good coaching

#ProveEm

[mcHAPPY]

Can we throw the 83 pt game out for being well below the mean as well? That's not how stats work. You don't just throw out the numbers that seem high and say it was unrepresentative unless there's a good reason to do so (very impactful extenuating circumstances, which in this case there were not).

Absolutely.

Throwing lowest and highest is often common practices, no?

And when that is done we come out to 95 points per game - even worse than the average 96.1.


Teams get less efficient in the playoffs is not accurate or true.
Last year the Raptors got noticeably worse in a predominant iso offense.
Given the ISO heavy style of play this year, there is legit concern the playoffs will bring about the same type of drop off. Throw in the slippage on defense and I am one nervous Raptor fan come playoffs.

[mcHAPPY]

Raptors are 7-7 in January. With two games left they have a chance to go over .500. Who would of thought after the way this month started. Team is finally getting healthy(6-3 with DD back 19-6 overall). The fact DD has only played 25 games this year and were 31-15. That's a testament to good coaching

#ProveEm

So DeRozan goes out and they have a soft schedule was the argument for the turnaround on D.

Now DeRozan is back and they have a soft schedule but it is his contribution that has led to the 6-3 record.


Hmmmmm.


Could it be the Raptors are 31-15 in spite of coaching? Lots of people crap on roster for not enough talent but there are good pieces there.


If anyone looked at the schedule for January and saw 11 of 16 games versus teams under .500 and had hoped for just a .500 outcome, the might wish to raise their expectations since this is supposedly a top 3 seed team.