View Poll Results: With the 13th pick in the 2010 NBA Draft the Toronto Raptors select………

Voters
29. You may not vote on this poll
  • Eric Bledsoe PG Kentucky

    4 13.79%
  • Paul George SF Fresno St.

    5 17.24%
  • Ed Davis PF North Carolina

    2 6.90%
  • Patrick Patterson PF Kentucky

    3 10.34%
  • Hassan Whiteside C Marshall

    6 20.69%
  • Cole Aldrich C Kansas

    2 6.90%
  • Xavier Henry SG Kansas

    0 0%
  • Other

    7 24.14%
  • Trade Pick!!!

    0 0%
  • Sell pick for some brewskies and call it a night

    0 0%
Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 78

Thread: Draft Prospects (See Pg.7: Early Entries Announced!)

  1. #1
    Administrator Apollo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Posts
    11,663
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default Draft Prospects (See Pg.7: Early Entries Announced!)

    First a history lesson. The Raptors traded Jermaine O'Neal last season to the Heat. As part of the deal the Raptors sent a lotto protected first round draft pick to the Heat. It's protected from 2010-2015. What this means is that the next time the Raptors make the playoffs they lose their first rounder to the Heat. If they miss the playoffs they keep it.

    Fast forward, Bosh is out for the season and the Bulls are playing better ball; 6-4 in their last ten. It looks like they may steal 8th seed. Their next two games are against the Nets and Raptors. If they win both and the Raptors lose to the Hawks, the Bull take a one game lead on 8th seed. It's time to start talking about potential draft picks because things don't look good right now. In the inverted standings, sorted by win %, the Raptors rank 13th, the Bulls 12th. If the Bulls take over 8th seed in the east the Raptors would move to 12th in the inverted standings. It is not likely that they will be able to catch the 11th team no matter how much they struggle without Bosh. So, right now, if the Bulls take over 8th seed it looks like the Raptors will land the 12th overall pick in the draft. Should they miss the playoff, what player would you like to see drafted at 12-15?

    For me I think they should go with the best play available and that player may be Stanley Robinson . While they have Hedo Turkoglu now and Sonny Weems is playing very good ball at times, Stanley Robinson has the sort of upside where if paired with DeRozan down the road they two could become a formidable duo on the wing. The Raptors have been crying for a lock down defender for years to help hide some of the other players' weaknesses. Robinson has to potential to be a lock down guy and he rebounds the ball well, something important at the 3 for a team with Andrea Bargnani. Robinson can play either the 3 or 4. So if Bosh leaves and no suitable replacement is found he could fill in there until someone is found and/or Hedo is booted. One more thing, he played for UConn. Great program, great instructors, great overall experience. That matters.
    Last edited by Apollo; Thu Apr 8th, 2010 at 08:53 AM.

  2. #2
    Raptors Republic Starter
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Posts
    426
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Ya i think best player available is the way to go
    theres going to be a lot of stock chnges so i really dont want to guess who could be available at number 12 just yet.

  3. #3
    Raptors Republic Superstar Mack North's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Smoke City
    Posts
    2,678
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    One player I saw play this season that I really liked was Jarvis Varnado(6-9 210 PF/C) out of Mississippi State.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNoAw...eature=related

    He averaged 4.7 blocks a game(NCAA Career Leader) and is real athletic. Right now I think he's being touted as a late 1st early second rounder though, so the Raps would have to trade up in the 2nd to get him. As for the 12, maybe Damion James out of Texas.

    Pains me to say but I think I'm looking forward to the draft more than making the playoffs at this point. I don't see any use in making the playoffs especially if Bosh is out, it wouldn't even be fair. It might be worse than the Denver/New Orleans match-up last season.
    Keep Calm & Chive On

  4. #4
    Raptors Republic Rookie
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Posts
    162
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    I like that big kid from Duke.
    Any chances that we can get him?

  5. #5
    Administrator Apollo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Posts
    11,663
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Another guy I like is Xavier Henry. Plays decent D, has 3pt range, fits what the Raptors run on offense. He's not going to jump out of the gym like DeMar but if DeMar gets strong enough to move to the 3, Henry would be a good compliment at the 2.

  6. #6
    Administrator Apollo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Posts
    11,663
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Oh and then there's Willie Warren. He was being slotted as a top ten in some mocks last season before he pulled out. Think combo guard like Barbosa or Gordon. He's not going to improve the problems but he fits the system and has lots of talent.

  7. #7
    Raptors Republic Starter
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Posts
    574
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    For people like me who have a sliver of knowledge about college prospects and are looking to up thier knowledge, there is no better web site in the internet universe than

    http://www.nbadraft.net/

    I use it every year and it makes the draft infinitely more entertaining as you get to learn who these guys are.

  8. #8
    Raptors Republic Superstar Bendit's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Posts
    4,675
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    I am a bit confused about how the lottery system works in the nba...with a 12th placement isnt there a (even remote) possibility of moving much higher?

  9. #9
    Raptors Republic Rookie RAPMAN's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Posts
    74
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Quote Bendit wrote: View Post
    I am a bit confused about how the lottery system works in the nba...with a 12th placement isnt there a (even remote) possibility of moving much higher?
    Yes, we can either get 1,2,3 picks or move lower than we are, or we stay where we are. At our position, it is very likely that we will stay with the 12th pick, if hopefully we don't make the playoffs. I really don't want us to make the playoffs right now. Maybe if Bosh was able to play, I would be a bit interested.

    I thought I would ever say this, but even if the Raptors make the playoffs I don't think I will be watching any of the games... It would be too painful to watch. But I honestly thought Boshful Raptors had a chance against Cleaveland...

    Btw, if you are confused about the draft system read this,

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Draft_Lottery
    Take out the salami and cheese MAMA, this ball gameeeeee is OVERRRR!

  10. #10
    Raptors Republic Rookie
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Posts
    3
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    What i think they should is try and trade up and get Demarcus Cousins. A big man that actually plays center, and build around a core of Demar, Sonny, Bargnani, and Demarcus. And during free agency sign and trade bosh for some young prospect and a good point (my first pick would be Nets if they get john wall we could trade for Harris and CDR since they dont play him enough)

  11. #11
    Raptors Republic Rookie Aris's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Posts
    35
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Its been another tough season and although the team has shown flashes of looking good its all come down to terrible interior defence. If we miss the playoffs and retain our draft pick Im really high on Cole Aldrich, probably the best rebounding and defending big man in the draft and projected to be picked 12th. He avrages 15ppg 11rpg and 3 blocks, he also shoots 60% from the floor and 79% from the stripe.

  12. #12
    Administrator Apollo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Posts
    11,663
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Quote Bendit wrote: View Post
    I am a bit confused about how the lottery system works in the nba...with a 12th placement isnt there a (even remote) possibility of moving much higher?
    All teams in the lotto have a shot at winning picks 1-3. The worse your record is, the higher your probability of winning a top 3 picks is. After the winners of the top three picks are drawn the rest of the draft order is determined by win/loss record. The probability of the Raptors jumping up and grabbing a top 3 pick is very slim. So much so it's not really worth paying much attention to in my mind.

  13. #13
    Administrator Apollo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Posts
    11,663
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Quote Aris wrote: View Post
    Cole Aldrich, probably the best rebounding and defending big man in the draft and projected to be picked 12th. He avrages 15ppg 11rpg and 3 blocks, he also shoots 60% from the floor and 79% from the stripe.
    The best draft dedicated site in my mind is DraftExpress.com and they have Cole going 6th. Last year before he pulled out he was slotted in many mocks as a top ten pick too. I don't see him lasting to 12th. I mean the Jazz could need a big man, right now they have a pick slotted at 9th and Aldrich is everything Jerry Sloan holds dear in a basketball player. I don't think he would make it past the Jazz at 9.

  14. #14
    Raptors Republic Superstar Mack North's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Smoke City
    Posts
    2,678
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Quote Braveheart wrote: View Post
    What i think they should is try and trade up and get Demarcus Cousins. A big man that actually plays center, and build around a core of Demar, Sonny, Bargnani, and Demarcus. And during free agency sign and trade bosh for some young prospect and a good point (my first pick would be Nets if they get john wall we could trade for Harris and CDR since they dont play him enough)
    I don't know if I'm sold on Cousins. Even if they were to trade up to get him we'd definitely be in a re-building mode and people would have to be patient. His offensive game wouldn't be much his first couple seasons but I'd rather have him at C than Bargs. The only way to get him I see would involve a Bosh deal before he becomes a FA.

    Another guy I watched during the tourney was Jordan Crawford from Xavier(the dude that dunked on LeBron last summer). That kid has game and looks like he's fearless. That double OT game vs. K State was a classic and he knocked down some huge shots. I guess he's not coming out this year but maybe next year he can be on our boards!
    Keep Calm & Chive On

  15. #15
    Raptors Republic Rookie Aris's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Posts
    35
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    The best draft dedicated site in my mind is DraftExpress.com and they have Cole going 6th. Last year before he pulled out he was slotted in many mocks as a top ten pick too. I don't see him lasting to 12th. I mean the Jazz could need a big man, right now they have a pick slotted at 9th and Aldrich is everything Jerry Sloan holds dear in a basketball player. I don't think he would make it past the Jazz at 9.
    You may be right but the site i always use is nbadraft.net and they have him slotted at 12th.

  16. #16
    Raptors Republic Starter tonious35's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Richmond Hill or Edmonton
    Posts
    275
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    If Rasho is gone, and we have a 2nd rounder to pick, I hope it is Zubek from Duke. Make Zubek just rebound and box out people and defend centers, tip in offensive rebounds are his only way of defense. I'll have him come off the bench as a C.

    I don't care what the hell we pick in the first round, just as long as it keeps Hedo out of the starting lineup.

  17. #17
    Raptors Republic Superstar Mack North's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Smoke City
    Posts
    2,678
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    What do you guys think about the FIVE Kentucky players coming out? Wall and Cousins yes, and even Patterson.

    But Bledsoe could definitely use another year or two, and this freshman Daniel Orton thinks because he played Kentucky's first team in practice all year he can do fine in the NBA. The guy averaged 13 minutes with 3.4 pts 3.3 reb and 1.4 blocks. I don't know about you but this seems like a huge mistake. If he's taken it'll be as a late 2nd rounder and he'll be on an NBA bench for the length of his rookie contract(with a few stints in the D) and then likely off to Europe.

    Why can't guys like this stick it out in college another year or two, refine their game and come to the NBA when they're good and ready? He'd be the man on Kentucky next year with Calapari as his coach, what's so bad about that? Maybe I'm going off on this guy but I guess I'm using him as more of an example of the many guys who think they're NBA ready and get to the league to find out they're not. He may be fine and prove me wrong but... maybe not.
    Keep Calm & Chive On

  18. #18
    Raptors Republic Starter
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Posts
    574
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    I love Crawford, that cojones he has. He would not accept a losing atmosphere for long.

    Apollo, if Minny wins the lottery or even if they don't...Rubio has to be up for sale right? His value has gone down since the draft I assume. I know people are going to get up in arms about another Spanish point guard, but he's pretty much the anti-Jose.

    Whoever they draft should bring toughness, leadership and and a no-nonsense work ethic. I like Aldrich and am growing on Xavier and Whiteside

  19. #19
    Raptors Republic Rookie RAPMAN's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Posts
    74
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Quote mo-sales wrote: View Post
    I love Crawford, that cojones he has. He would not accept a losing atmosphere for long.

    Apollo, if Minny wins the lottery or even if they don't...Rubio has to be up for sale right? His value has gone down since the draft I assume. I know people are going to get up in arms about another Spanish point guard, but he's pretty much the anti-Jose.

    Whoever they draft should bring toughness, leadership and and a no-nonsense work ethic. I like Aldrich and am growing on Xavier and Whiteside
    Trust me on this, when Rubio comes up, he will be untouchable. There are always players on teams that are kind of untouchable. Getting away from all the obvious ones like Lebron, guys like DD, Galldinari, Rubio, are untouchable players. This is because teams know these guys will become really good players, but if they sell them now, they won't get any value close to what they can be.
    Take out the salami and cheese MAMA, this ball gameeeeee is OVERRRR!

  20. #20
    Administrator Apollo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Posts
    11,663
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Quote Mack North wrote: View Post
    I don't know about you but this seems like a huge mistake. If he's taken it'll be as a late 2nd rounder and he'll be on an NBA bench for the length of his rookie contract(with a few stints in the D) and then likely off to Europe.
    If he has skill and works hard he'll get a chance. All the D-League call ups this year should be proof of that. I agree though, big mistake coming out early with little on the resume.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •