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OldSkoolCool wrote: View PostI'm probably alone on this.....but I think trading DD may be addition by subtraction
Our offense is predicated too much around his particular strengths, which isn't necessarily the best style of offensive play.
If we removed him from the lineup and designed the offense to have shooters at the 2-3-4 spots, and utilized JV in the post to play inside-out we may be able to take the next step in the team's development.
Right now I feel like we are going to come up against DD's talent cap very soon, and it is going to limit the options/flexibility we have going forward. Trading DD will most likely make us worse in the short-term, but in the long term, keeping DD may be detrimental (poor wording?)
It even might be to our advantage to take one step back now to take two steps forward in the future
And I'm done with one step back, two steps forward stuff. The Raptors have been doing this rebuiding thing for years, and a lot of the time, the people you think you are getting is not who they turn out to be. We don't know what stage of development Tobias Harris is in, but currently he's just not the player DeRozan is. And he may never get there. So yeah, if you need to free up the cap space because you know you're getting a true max guy, that's when you make your move. Right now though, you might be stuck with no Jimmy Butler (or equivalent) and a lesser player than what you traded DeRozan for, which would be a bit of a disaster.
Plus, if the Magic are not willing to pay Tobias Harris, why would they be willing to pay DeRozan?That is a normal collar. Move on, find a new slant.
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#KeepCaseyonShortLeashAxel wrote:Now Cody can stop posting about this guy and we have a poster to blame if anything goes wrong!!KeonClark wrote:We won't hear back from him. He dissapears into thin air and reappears when you least expect it. Ten is an enigma. Ten is a legend. Ten for the motherfucking win.KeonClark wrote:I can't wait until the playoffs start.
Until then, opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one and they most often stink
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NoPropsneeded wrote: View PostJust pound it inside man. Bigmen win championships unless you got Lebron or MJ on your team
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Mediumcore wrote: View PostI'm for not getting JV more touches and playing time (than what he is receiving) until he signs on the cheap. Problem is that even with the limited shots/mins. the kid is showing signs of breaking out in a big way. It's not going to be easy to sign him for a reasonable price.
It doesn't matter, JV is gonna get a huge deal either way (22 year old centres with PER > 20 are not exactly common), and we'll match any offer if we have to.
Hopefully we can lock him up before anyone else offers, but I doubt it.
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KHD wrote: View PostThis is the dumbest shit i've ever heard.
It doesn't matter, JV is gonna get a huge deal either way (22 year old centres with PER > 20 are not exactly common), and we'll match any offer if we have to.
Hopefully we can lock him up before anyone else offers, but I doubt it.
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Mediumcore wrote: View PostI'm for not getting JV more touches and playing time (than what he is receiving) until he signs on the cheap. Problem is that even with the limited shots/mins. the kid is showing signs of breaking out in a big way. It's not going to be easy to sign him for a reasonable price.
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Mediumcore wrote: View PostSo, no chance of locking him up for anything other than a max?Axel wrote:Now Cody can stop posting about this guy and we have a poster to blame if anything goes wrong!!KeonClark wrote:We won't hear back from him. He dissapears into thin air and reappears when you least expect it. Ten is an enigma. Ten is a legend. Ten for the motherfucking win.KeonClark wrote:I can't wait until the playoffs start.
Until then, opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one and they most often stink
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breakin_ankles wrote: View PostWe're talking about this kids career, that is extremely selfish, and helps nobody. He loves it here from what I can see and I doubt he plans in leaving, but he should be paid what he deserves.
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I don't think the handling of Jonas has anything to do with some large behind the scenes plan to get him at a cheaper price.
It would be far too risky a plan. You don't want to piss him off so he wants to go somewhere else. You don't want young prospects thinking they won't get fair minutes or fair negotiations for their contracts. It'll create a bad reputation for the team among players and agents. All for what? To try and get a million or two a year off what's sure to be a large contract? And could end up compromising your ability to do business across the whole league? Yeah...don't think so...
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KHD wrote: View PostThis is the dumbest shit i've ever heard.
It doesn't matter, JV is gonna get a huge deal either way (22 year old centres with PER > 20 are not exactly common), and we'll match any offer if we have to.
Hopefully we can lock him up before anyone else offers, but I doubt it.
He will be getting more than $11M per year.
Masai does Raps business, then signs him.....at least I hope
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tDotted wrote: View PostHe's an under-the-rim player that hits shots from outside and doesn't rely on speed even half the time. Why are you worried?9 time first team all-RR, First Ballot Hall of Forum
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