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Axel wrote:Now Cody can stop posting about this guy and we have a poster to blame if anything goes wrong!!KeonClark wrote:We won't hear back from him. He dissapears into thin air and reappears when you least expect it. Ten is an enigma. Ten is a legend. Ten for the motherfucking win.KeonClark wrote:I can't wait until the playoffs start.
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blackjitsu wrote: View PostI quickly went through this thread and put together a list of coaches mentioned:
Jeff Van Gundy
Alvin Gentry
E. Messina
Mike Malone
Thibadeau
Nate McMillan
Ron Adams
Obradovic
Tom Sterner
Players:
Billups -- Interest is in front office, not coaching
Battier -- TV/Poltics
Jeff would likely want Masai's job, so that would have to be the board's choice.
Of the others mentioned (who I know), I like Malone, Thibs, Messina, Gentry and McMillan. Becky Hammond's been an assistant for a year? Maybe, 5-10 years from now we can have the debate whether she can/should be a head coach. There's just not enough of a track record to make that sort of argument.
Am I missing any serious candidates?
Was I right to not include Scott Brooks in my list?
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blackjitsu wrote: View PostI quickly went through this thread and put together a list of coaches mentioned:
Jeff Van Gundy
Alvin Gentry
E. Messina
Mike Malone
Thibadeau
Nate McMillan
Ron Adams
Obradovic
Tom Sterner
Players:
Billups -- Interest is in front office, not coaching
Battier -- TV/Poltics
Jeff would likely want Masai's job, so that would have to be the board's choice.
Of the others mentioned (who I know), I like Malone, Thibs, Messina, Gentry and McMillan. Becky Hammond's been an assistant for a year? Maybe, 5-10 years from now we can have the debate whether she can/should be a head coach. There's just not enough of a track record to make that sort of argument.
Am I missing any serious candidates?
Was I right to not include Scott Brooks in my list?
Other names to throw in are Fred Hoiberg, Dave Fizdale, Jim Boylen, Adrian Griffin, Kenny Atkinson, Tyronn Lue, Jay Larranaga, Sean Miller, and Ime Udoka.
Those guys are all mentioned as top coaching candidates.
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Primer wrote: View PostI'd add Nurse and Bayno to the list, I consider them both much more likely candidates than Sterner.
Other names to throw in are Fred Hoiberg, Dave Fizdale, Jim Boylen, Adrian Griffin, Kenny Atkinson, Tyronn Lue, Jay Larranaga, Sean Miller, and Ime Udoka.
Those guys are all mentioned as top coaching candidates.
So the list is:
Jeff Van Gundy
Alvin Gentry
E. Messina
Mike Malone
Thibadeau
Nate McMillan
Ron Adams
Obradovic
Tom Sterner
Fred Hoiberg (primer and psrs1)
and primer's list:
Nurse
Bayno,
Dave Fizdale,
Jim Boylen,
Adrian Griffin,
Kenny Atkinson,
Tyronn Lue,
Jay Larranaga,
Sean Miller,
Ime Udoka.
Pretty sure a bunch of these will be ruled out quickly. Pretty interested to see if bios and stats lead to any clear standouts.Last edited by blackjitsu; Sat Apr 25, 2015, 07:57 PM.
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blackjitsu wrote: View PostCool. That's about20 candidates. I'm going to try to put together bios/coaching records for all these guys so we can have an actual debate in here. (Might take a day or 3 depending on free time).
So the list is:
Jeff Van Gundy
Alvin Gentry
E. Messina
Mike Malone
Thibadeau
Nate McMillan
Ron Adams
Obradovic
Tom Sterner
Fred Hoiberg (primer and psrs1)
and primer's list:
Nurse
Bayno,
Dave Fizdale,
Jim Boylen,
Adrian Griffin,
Kenny Atkinson,
Tyronn Lue,
Jay Larranaga,
Sean Miller,
Ime Udoka.
Pretty sure a bunch of these will be ruled out quickly. Pretty interested to see if bios and stats lead to any clear standouts.
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Jeff Van Gundy -- Last coached in the BA in 2007 (Houston). 1999 EC champ, 200 All Star HC (w/ the Knicks).
Alvin Gentry -- Lead Assistant @ Golden State. 12 years HC experience. Missed the playoffs as a head coach 7 times. Fired or did not complete season as HC 3 additional times. Knocked out in the 1st round once. Lost in the Conference Finals once.
E. Messina -- Current assistant w/ SA Spurs. HC @ Bologna, Treviso, CSKA, Real MAdrid. 4 Euroleague titles,Cup Winners Cup titles, 2 Euroleague COY, 4 Italian League titles, 7 Italian Cup titles, 5 Russian League, 2 Russian Cup, 2 VTB United League...
Mike Malone -- w/ Knicks as associate and Assis. Coach from 2001-2005, Cavs 2005-2010. NO Hornets 2010-11 (most improved defense in the NBA. Golden State 2011 - June 2013 (lead assis. in 2011 -- also the NBA's top paid assistant & voted top assistant by NBA GM's in 2012). HC record (Kings) 11-13.
Tom Thibodeau -- started as a defensive assistant in 1989 for the Wolves. Assisted under Bill Musselman, Jerry Tarkanian, Rex Hughes, John Lucas,and JVG. Became the "associate" HC in 2007 for the Celtics (under Doc). Became HC of the Bulls 2010-11 season. COY in 2011, ECF 2011, EC All Star coach 2012. Fast coach in history to reach 100 wins
Nate McMillan -- 19 years as an assistant, and HC of the Sonics. 7 years HC "Jail"Blazers. Presently an assistant w/ the Pacers. 2006-2008 assisted the US National team w/ Coach K.As HC he's missed the playoffs, or been fired 7 times and only gotten out of the 1st round once
Ron Adams -- Primarily a college assistant coach. Started his career in 1969 (Fresno Pacific). NBA stints in SA, Philly, Mill, Chi, OKC, Bos, GS (present). Considered a defensive specialist.Has coached in Belgium and Japan, and has consulted for Basketball Canada.
Zeljko Obradovic -- HC of Fenerbache. 8 Euroleague titles w/ 4 different clubs, Serbian national HC, 1997 Fiba Europe champ, 1998 Fiba World Champ... 2 Euroleague COY, 3 Greek League CY, 1 Turkish League title, Turkish Super Cup, 11 Greek League, 7 Grek Cup, 2 Saporta Cupm 1 Italian Super Cup, 1 Yugoslav League, 1 Yugoslav Cup
Tom Sterner -- Raps assistant been an NBA assistant since 1990. Started with Orlando 90 - 2002, GS 2002-05, Orlando 2005-2008, Mavs 2008-2010, Raps. Has worked uder Doc Rivers, Brian Hill, SVG, Musselman, and Carisle
Nick Nurse -- 12 seasons as HC in the British Basketball League COY twice.1 D League COY. Has cached NAIA, NCAA (assistant), USBL (assistant), and Belgium League Toronto is his 1st NBA role.2 D League titles, 3 D League Division titles, 2 BBL titles.
Bill Bayno -- Former NCAA HC (@ UNLV, Loyala Marymount), ABA HC, CBA HC (2003 champion), and Phillipine Basketball Association HC. In the NBA has worked as an assistant w/ McMillan & Pritchard (Blazers), Adelman (Wolves) and Toronto
Fred Hoiberg -- Wolves front office from 2006-2010. Took over ISU in 2010 -- Has a $20 Mill contract w/ a $2 Mill buyout clause ($500,000 for NBA HC or GM roles). 2012 Big 12 COY. Fastest coach to 100 victories in ISU history. 1st coach since 2005 to gt ISU into the AP top 25 (Has heart health issues -- reason he retired as a player just had a 2nd surgery as stated by mars)
David Fizdale -- Associate HC (lead assistant) and Director of player development for the Miami Heat. Past NBA assis roles GS (2003-04)(Musselman), Hawks (2004-2008)(Mike Woodson)
Jim Boylen -- 3 NBA titles as an assistant (1994, 1995, 2014). NBA stop include Houston 92-2003 (Rudy), 2003-04 GS (Musselman), Bucks 04-05 (Terry Porter), Pacers 11-13(Vogel), and Spurs 13 - Now (Pop). Former HC of the Utah Utes, top assistant for Tom Izzo @ MSU (05-07)
Adrian Griffin -- Played as a pro 12 years, last 9 in the NBA. 1st assist Coach role 2008-10 w/ Bucks under Scott Skilles. W/ Thibs in Chi since 2010
Kenny Atkinson -- Director of Player Dev. for the Rockets 2007-08. Knicks Assis. from 2009-12. Joined Hawks in 2012.
Tyronn Lue -- Started as an assistant in 2009 with Doc in Boston, followed him to the Clippers until this year. Currently the lead assistant in Cleveland
Jay Larranaga -- Played in Europe for over a decade. Coaching experience includes HC for Ireland (08-10), Erie Bayhawks(10-12), Ukraine (2013 - present). He is an assistant for the Celtics (12-present)
Sean Miller -- Arizona Wildcats HC. A10 Tourney champ (06), 3 A10 Season titles, 3 Pac 10 season titles, Pac 12 Tournament (2015), A10 COY (08), 2 Pac10 COY's.
Ime Udoka -- 12 year playing career. 5 in the NBA (3 w/ Spurs). 2012 - present SA Spurs assis. 1 title as an assis.
Players:
Billups -- Interest is in front office, not coaching
Battier -- TV/Politics
Man insomnia has me almost productive. I did this through Google and Wiki. But looking strictly at their resumes there seems to be some clear tiers. I have my own personal opinions from doing this, but I thinking eliminating some of these guys and breaking it into tiers is for another post.
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nurse sounds interesting, but only not sure about his role on this team, and alignment with Casey. Though MU knows, so he's in a good position to evaluate. Obradovic would be my first choice, followed by Malone.
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