Patching our Biggest Need: Is it at the 3 or the 4 ?

[Primer]

So with JV emerging as a post scorer why do many of you want a low post PF?

That doesn't make any sense...

Two low post big men has worked plenty of times in the NBA, Randolph and Gasol is a great example right now. It's like saying why would you want 2 3pt shooters, or 2 players who can drive to the basket? Only having one post threat is not a balanced team.

[2kfeen]

its going to be hard to pry monroe out of detroit at this point.
i say we try to trade for taj gibson, then sign demarre caroll.
or sign kevin love straight up (if hes trying to play for us, that is)

that keeps us with cap space for the 2016 offseason, where we can make a play for KD

[OldSkoolCool]

Two low post big men has worked plenty of times in the NBA, Randolph and Gasol is a great example right now. It's like saying why would you want 2 3pt shooters, or 2 players who can drive to the basket? Only having one post threat is not a balanced team.

Randolph is a deadly face up shooter. Now so is Gasol.

JV will take some time to get to Gasol's level since we have wasted 3 years of his development in that facet.

I think for a PF, Patterson fits quite well. If he improves defensively and rebounding wise he can be a very good pairing with JV with his passing and shooting ability.

[Nilanka]

Bargnani is an option as a stretch 4.

Moderators, do your worst!

[Nilanka]

A lot of votes for RFA's in the thread. If history is a guide, (and it is) it will be near impossible to get them as teams simply match unless the player is a bust.

Here is a list of UFA's and PO's which may be available at the PF spot which is leading the poll.

Player
LaMarcus Aldridge $15.256M UFA
Kevin Love $16.744M PO
Paul Millsap $9.500M UFA
Greg Monroens $5.480M UFA
Draymond Green $1.181M RFA
David West $12.600M PO
Thaddeus Young $9.750M PO
Carlos Boozer $3.251M LOL
Amar'e Stoudemire$485.7k Again LOL
Tristan Thompson $6.778M RFA
Amir Johnson $7.100M UFA
Luis Scola $4.869M UFA
Brandon Bass\ $6.900M UFA
Brandan Wright $5.000M UFA
Marreese Speights$3.815M PO
Lavoy Allen \ $948.2k UFA
Kyle O'Quinn\\\ \\$1.181M RFA

I would honestly take Aldridge over Love, without hesitation.

[Cody73]

Randolph is a deadly face up shooter. Now so is Gasol.

JV will take some time to get to Gasol's level since we have wasted 3 years of his development in that facet.

I think for a PF, Patterson fits quite well. If he improves defensively and rebounding wise he can be a very good pairing with JV with his passing and shooting ability.

This is what I want to occur in the offseason myself. I think most people would be happy with this.

1. Bring back TH, LF & CH. Let Amir, Lou and Steamer go.

2. Sign Carroll. Veteran guy whose proven. This moves Ross to the 2 and JJ to the 4.

3. Bring in a PF in the draft.

4. Invite Daniels to SL to compete with Bruno & Fields for backup 3 playing time.

Rotations next year:

KL
DD
DC
PP
JV

Bench:
GV
TR
LF/DeAD/BC
TH/JJ/??
LN/CH

THat's not bad line-up. Maybe bring back De Colo too?

[jacobdr4]

This is what I want to occur in the offseason myself. I think most people would be happy with this.

1. Bring back TH, LF & CH. Let Amir, Lou and Steamer go.

2. Sign Carroll. Veteran guy whose proven. This moves Ross to the 2 and JJ to the 4.

3. Bring in a PF in the draft.

4. Invite Daniels to SL to compete with Bruno & Fields for backup 3 playing time.

Rotations next year:

KL
DD
DC
PP
JV

Bench:
GV
TR
LF/DeAD/BC
TH/JJ/??
LN/CH

THat's not bad line-up. Maybe bring back De Colo too?

Why Landry Fields? Can we not find someone else to ride the bench for the minimum

[Uncle_Si]

Why Landry Fields? Can we not find someone else to ride the bench for the minimum

Ya, like our first round draft pick? We need to get rid of dead weight not keep it around.

[Cody73]

Why Landry Fields? Can we not find someone else to ride the bench for the minimum

Easy answer to that: I think Fields is better than most people do. Yes, he has lost his shot. But besides that, he's a fine backup playmaking 3 & D guy.

Look at what he does off the ball when he plays. He also passes effectively, which will help move our offense especially if GV is jacking up shots like has this year.

Also, I personally feel Daniels deserves a fair look. He's been playing well in the NBL this year for Perth, and is transitioning along nicely, which is why I wanna see him in SL.

Also, JJ can fill in minutes at the 3 as well if needed there considering Handsborough can play the 4.

Plus, look at what Carroll provides. Leadership, Defense, Consistency and Hunger. All of those will help our younger guys grow if we were to nab him. He's just that perfect fit in so many ways.... albeit there are a few other guys I'd consider as well (Middleton, Harris, Barnes, Montejunas all come to mind)

[charlesnba23]

Go after Al Jefferson. This guy is sooooooooo underrated. He's a force inside and can play both big spots.

If he doesn't take his player option, sign him. If he's taking it, I'd be willing to trade DeMar for him.

[Primer]

Easy answer to that: I think Fields is better than most people do. Yes, he has lost his shot. But besides that, he's a fine backup playmaking 3 & D guy.

Look at what he does off the ball when he plays. He also passes effectively, which will help move our offense especially if GV is jacking up shots like has this year.

Also, I personally feel Daniels deserves a fair look. He's been playing well in the NBL this year for Perth, and is transitioning along nicely, which is why I wanna see him in SL.

Also, JJ can fill in minutes at the 3 as well if needed there considering Handsborough can play the 4.

Plus, look at what Carroll provides. Leadership, Defense, Consistency and Hunger. All of those will help our younger guys grow if we were to nab him. He's just that perfect fit in so many ways.... albeit there are a few other guys I'd consider as well (Middleton, Harris, Barnes, Montejunas all come to mind)

If he has no shot, then how exactly is he a 3 and D guy? Sounds more like an average D guy with no 3. Fields will be lucky to be in the NBA next season, and I won't be surprised if no one signs him.

I think the lineup you listed would be a lot worse than this years team. Lose Amir and Lou and replace them with no one at their positions. Only add Demarre Carroll. Our PF rotation is backup players entirely, our bench is much worse with no scorers, but we have improved at starting SF. The only way I'd be happy with that offseason is if Casey was canned and a coach we're excited about is brought in, but I'd still be questioning Masai's roster building.

Fields, Hansbrough, and Hayes should all be let go. Two of those guys play essentially zero minutes right now, yet you have them as players to bring back?

[Cody73]

If he has no shot, then how exactly is he a 3 and D guy? Sounds more like an average D guy with no 3. Fields will be lucky to be in the NBA next season, and I won't be surprised if no one signs him.

I think the lineup you listed would be a lot worse than this years team. Lose Amir and Lou and replace them with no one at their positions. Only add Demarre Carroll. Our PF rotation is backup players entirely, our bench is much worse with no scorers, but we have improved at starting SF. The only way I'd be happy with that offseason is if Casey was canned and a coach we're excited about is brought in, but I'd still be questioning Masai's roster building.

Fields, Hansbrough, and Hayes should all be let go. Two of those guys play essentially zero minutes right now, yet you have them as players to bring back?

1. Playmaking SF & D guy is what I meant there, Primer.

2. I said we could grab a PF in the draft. I don't know who we should target though... and PP takes over as our starter while JJ backs him up.

3. All 3 guys help out on D. Defense wins championships. WE need good defenders on our bench, no?

Agreed on canning Casey. He's the real axe I hope falls.

[planetmars]

Landry is a smart player and is a good guy to have on the bench for chemistry reasons.. however I personally would rather spend cash and acquire a second pick and to fill his spot on the bench with a rookie.

[ceez]

the thing with Landry is he knows how to play, and when he does play (which is rare) he's always prepared and always gives 100%. that's a certainty. he plays the same when he's in for a couple minutes as when he starts. he always plays within himself and is great for team chemistry.

i'd rather have a guy like that as my end of bench player than an uncertainty.

[Primer]

the thing with Landry is he knows how to play, and when he does play (which is rare) he's always prepared and always gives 100%. that's a certainty. he plays the same when he's in for a couple minutes as when he starts. he always plays within himself and is great for team chemistry.

i'd rather have a guy like that as my end of bench player than an uncertainty.

Everything you said could be said about 50-75% of the league. It's like when the best compliment you can give someone is "they're nice". He "gives it his all" and "is always prepared" shouldn't earn you an NBA roster spot.

The end of bench is best suited for guys like Bruno who need time to develop since end of bench doesn't really get minutes. All the vets on the team should be there to play, not for locker room chemistry (not that chemistry doesn't matter, but I don't see anyone on the team hurting it outside of Casey). Make Landry an assistant coach if he's so good for chemistry, because he's damn near useless on the court with that broken shot.