no thank you on the return of the spaniard I can't handle watching calderon and vasquez play matador all game long. Tank or no tank we need at least one rough around the edges american point guard.
Why does it matter if we tank? That makes no sense, or is really oddly prejudice (the wrong kind of 'sense'). If we're going to be bad, it don't matter if our PG is a spaniard who can't play D, an American who only plays D, or an alien worm with no arms who has to shoot by spitting the ball.
It was actually mostly a joke...but in principle I'd gladly trade Lowry (if his time is up here anyway) for #4 plus Jose (if you have to take Jose off their hands to make a deal work).
Question: what team **with allstar calibre players** would be looking to move up in draft I.e. Take step back in standings?
Orlando, Sacramento, Charlotte, Detroit, Miami, Indy, Utah, PHX, OKC all looking to improve.
Does Portland throw in towel if Aldridge leaves? Even if he does, they aren't trading lillard.
Denver is a wildcard.
Boston is looking to add star players like NY.
NO looking to improve.
Trade market is looking pretty barren for stars.....or I just can't see it. Anyone?
I am trying here... Not much luck.
Indiana trade Hibbert? But if he can't handle it mentally in Indy he will be toast in NY.
What team is going to trade an AS this season?
NO. PLAYER (TEAM) POS. HT. WT. BIRTHDATE FROM
7 * Carmelo Anthony (Knicks) F 6-8 240 05/29/84 Syracuse/USA
23 * LeBron James (Cavaliers) F 6-8 250 12/30/84 St. Vincent-St. Mary HS (OH)/USA
16 * Pau Gasol (Bulls) C-F 7-0 250 07/06/80 Barcelona, Spain
2 * John Wall (Wizards) G 6-4 195 09/06/90 Kentucky/USA
7 *# Kyle Lowry (Raptors) G 6-0 205 03/25/86 Villanova/USA
1 Chris Bosh (Heat) C 6-11 235 03/24/84 Georgia Institute of Technology/USA
21 # Jimmy Butler (Bulls) G-F 6-7 220 09/14/89 Marquette/USA
15 Al Horford (Hawks) C-F 6-10 250 06/03/86 University of Florida/USA
2 Kyrie Irving (Cavaliers) G 6-3 193 03/23/92 Duke University/USA
26 # Kyle Korver (Hawks) G 6-7 212 03/17/81 Creighton/USA
4 Paul Millsap (Hawks) F 6-8 253 02/10/85 Louisiana Tech University/USA
0 # Jeff Teague (Hawks) G 6-2 181 06/10/88 Wake Forest/USA
3 ^ Dwyane Wade (Heat) G 6-4 220 01/17/82 Marquette/USA
Head Coach: Mike Budenholzer (Hawks)
NO. PLAYER (TEAM) POS. HT. WT. BIRTHDATE FROM
32 *^ Blake Griffin (Clippers) F 6-10 251 03/16/89 Oklahoma/USA
33 * Marc Gasol (Grizzlies) C 7-1 265 01/29/85 Barcelona, Spain
24 *^ Kobe Bryant (Lakers) G 6-6 212 08/23/78 Lower Merion HS (PA)/USA
23 *^ Anthony Davis (Pelicans) C-F 6-10 220 03/11/93 Kentucky/USA
30 * Stephen Curry (Warriors) G 6-3 190 03/14/88 Davidson/USA
12 LaMarcus Aldridge (Trail Blazers) F 6-11 240 07/19/85 Texas/USA
15 # DeMarcus Cousins (Kings) C 6-11 270 08/13/90 Kentucky/USA
21 Tim Duncan (Spurs) F 6-11 250 04/25/76 Wake Forest/U.S. Virgin Islands
35 Kevin Durant (Thunder) F 6-9 240 09/29/88 Texas/USA
13 James Harden (Rockets) G 6-5 225 08/26/89 Arizona State/USA
0 Damian Lillard (Blazers) G 6-3 195 07/05/90 Weber State/USA
41 Dirk Nowitzki (Mavericks) F 7-0 245 06/19/78 DJK Wurzburg/Germany
3 Chris Paul (Clippers) G 6-0 175 05/06/85 Wake Forest/USA
11 # Klay Thompson (Warriors) G 6-7 215 02/08/90 Washington State/USA
0 Russell Westbrook (Thunder) G 6-3 200 11/12/88 UCLA/USA
NO. PLAYER (TEAM) POS. HT. WT. BIRTHDATE FROM
7 * Carmelo Anthony (Knicks) F 6-8 230 05/29/84 Syracuse/USA
24 * Paul George (Pacers) F 6-9 220 05/02/90 Fresno State/USA
6 * LeBron James (Heat) F 6-8 250 12/30/84 St. Vincent-St. Mary HS (OH)/USA
2 * Kyrie Irving (Cavaliers) G 6-3 193 03/23/92 Duke/USA
3 * Dwyane Wade (Heat) G 6-4 220 01/17/82 Marquette/USA
1 Chris Bosh (Heat) F/C 6-11 235 03/24/84 Georgia Tech/USA
10 # DeMar DeRozan (Raptors) G 6-7 216 08/07/89 USC/USA
55 Roy Hibbert (Pacers) C 7-2 290 12/11/86 Georgetown/USA
7 Joe Johnson (Nets) G 6-7 240 06/29/81 Arkansas/USA
4 # Paul Millsap (Hawks) F 6-8 253 02/10/85 Louisiana Tech/USA
13 Joakim Noah (Bulls) C 6-11 232 02/25/85 Florida/USA
2 # John Wall (Wizards) G 6-4 195 09/06/90 Kentucky/USA
Head Coach: Frank Vogel (Pacers)
NO. PLAYER (TEAM) POS. HT. WT. BIRTHDATE FROM
35 * Kevin Durant (Thunder) F 6-9 240 09/29/88 Texas/USA
32 * Blake Griffin (Clippers) F 6-10 251 03/16/89 Oklahoma/USA
42 * Kevin Love (Timberwolves) F 6-10 243 09/07/88 UCLA/USA
24 *^ Kobe Bryant (Lakers) G 6-6 205 08/23/78 Lower Merion HS (PA)/USA
30 *# Stephen Curry (Warriors) G 6-3 185 03/14/88 Davidson College/USA
12 LaMarcus Aldridge (Blazers) F 6-11 240 07/19/85 Texas/USA
23 # Anthony Davis (Pelicans) F/C 6-10 220 03/11/93 Kentucky/USA
13 James Harden (Rockets) G 6-5 220 08/26/89 Arizona State/USA
12 Dwight Howard (Rockets) C 6-11 265 12/08/85 SW Atlanta Christian Aca./USA
0 # Damian Lillard (Blazers) G 6-3 195 07/05/90 Weber State/USA
41 Dirk Nowitzki (Mavericks) F 7-0 245 06/19/78 DJK Wurzburg/Germany
9 Tony Parker (Spurs) G 6-2 185 05/17/82 Paris BR/France
3 Chris Paul (Clippers) G 6-0 175 05/06/85 Wake Forest/USA
Head Coach: Scott Brooks (Thunder)
Hahahahah, People here are trading like we are in a vacuum and are the ONLY team willing to trade for these picks
Bring your expectations down people or you will be disappointed.
If MU manages to get 2 draft picks ( 5-10) for KL and DD, that would an amazing accomplishment.
The Knicks are so bad, they might not be just looking for an All Star for the #4 pick. They could be looking for starters, other trade assets, solid bench players. If a good enough package is put together that combines upside and immediate contributions why wouldn't they consider it?
I really don't think the Knicks are looking to develop any players right now, not with 120million tied up in an ageing and deteriorating carmelo anthony. They need pieces around him, and they will be desperate to get them. Fortunately, Masai is pretty good at bending the Knicks over his knee soooo, ya never know!
Sunny ways my friends, sunny ways
Because its 2015
I am asking for help looking at league - not just raptors.
Don't start with me Pal. The difference between us is that you always live in a dream land and this is why you are always disappointed ...
All I am saying is that people need to be realistic and keep their expectation in check. DD and KL had bad play offs and there are other teams in the league that have better talents and are willing to move up. It is not like we have Beal as our shooting guard or it is not like DD has demolished Washington in the series.
Now if MU manages to land #4 then fantastic !!! all hail to the best GM in the league. But more realistic picks are 5-10 given the players that will be left on the board, teams that have those picks and what we have to offer.
When thinking about trades and ... It is always good to NOT assume the other teams in run by morons who are incompetent and have no vision. Always ask yourself, will you make that trade if you were the other team !!!
I simply don't think there will be such a HOT market for DD and KL this summer.
Don't start with me Pal. The difference between us is that you always live in a dream land and this is why you are always disappointed ...
All I am saying is that people need to be realistic and keep their expectation in check. DD and KL had bad play offs and there are other teams in the league that have better talents and are willing to move up. It is not like we have Beal as our shooting guard or it is not like DD has demolished Washington in the series.
Now if MU manages to land #4 then fantastic !!! all hail to the best GM in the league. But more realistic picks are 5-10 given the players that will be left on the board, teams that have those picks and what we have to offer.
When thinking about trades and ... It is always good to NOT assume the other teams in run by morons who are incompetent and have no vision. Always ask yourself, will you make that trade if you were the other team !!!
I simply don't think there will be such a HOT market for DD and KL this summer.
But you are looking in a vacuum, no? Exactly what you accused a poster of doing.
Say what you want about value of KL and DD but they are recent AS and they play for an awful in game coach. Every opponent announce team from January on directly or indirectly highlighted this.
Where are the available players worthy of a #4 pick?
What teams are willing to throw in the towel on current core with all-star calibre players?
It is a unique time in nba with only a handful of teams intentionally looking to be bad (Minny, philly). Lots of other bottom dwellers have been there for a while or are looking to get ahead after recent step back.
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