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Casey on board w/ small ball philosophy of NBA Final
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"My biggest concern as a coach is to not confuse winning with progress." - Steve Kerr
"If it's unacceptable in defeat, it's unacceptable in victory." - Jeff Van Gundy
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See, the major issue I have with "The day of the centres has gone by" is that it is a completely rigid and dogmatic statement.
I would argue that what makes Kerr and Popovich so effective in the playoffs is their ability to be flexible and adjust, not to make hard-line pronouncements and stubbornly stick with them. Iguodala doesn't start one game all regular season but then starts the last three of the Finals. In 2013-14 Bonner started two games during San Antonio's title run.
It's like when Casey saw that Melo and Lebron were spending time at the 4 and decided that the league was moving towards SFs playing the 4. Cue the Big Rudy Disaster.
You can't take the talent you have and try to make it conform to the prevailing trend of the day. You have to set the trend by being creative with the talent you have.
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In all fairness, we tend to read a lot more into what Casey says that what I'm sure he would ever fathom by his comments. I don't see him taking a rigid stance on anything...just making a general comment, but yet we on a forum put those words in his mouth and everyone goes on like it came directly from the goose.
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Mediumcore wrote: View PostIn all fairness, we tend to read a lot more into what Casey says that what I'm sure he would ever fathom by his comments. I don't see him taking a rigid stance on anything...just making a general comment, but yet we on a forum put those words in his mouth and everyone goes on like it came directly from the goose.
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I wish instead of worrying about matchups we were forcing the matchups....Milwaukee is going to be an absolute holy terror in the next few years because they got guys that force problems on other teams all over the court.For still frame photograph of me reading the DeRozan thread please refer to my avatar
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white men can't jump wrote: View PostHave you watched us play? Everything about the way he manages our team screams rigidity."Stop eating your sushi."
"I do actually have a pair of Uggs."
"I've had three cups of green tea tonight. I'm wired. I'm absolutely wired."
- Jack Armstrong
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Scraptor wrote: View PostSee, the major issue I have with "The day of the centres has gone by" is that it is a completely rigid and dogmatic statement.
I would argue that what makes Kerr and Popovich so effective in the playoffs is their ability to be flexible and adjust, not to make hard-line pronouncements and stubbornly stick with them. Iguodala doesn't start one game all regular season but then starts the last three of the Finals. In 2013-14 Bonner started two games during San Antonio's title run.
It's like when Casey saw that Melo and Lebron were spending time at the 4 and decided that the league was moving towards SFs playing the 4. Cue the Big Rudy Disaster.
You can't take the talent you have and try to make it conform to the prevailing trend of the day. You have to set the trend by being creative with the talent you have.
The second you try to follow a trend, you're trying to do something better than a team that decided they're uniquely suited to win with that approach.
In the current discussion/example, how easy would it be to copy GSW? You'd need that crazy shooter like Curry who can get off shots from anywhere. A guy who can take the worst shots in the game and hit them to make up for the lack of a top tier post player/penetrator in order to keep the D honest. And you'd need 5 versatile wings with good enough size and two-way ability who basically have starter talent, including one who's a great post and perimeter defender. The Raptors, as currently built, have exactly ZERO of those things. JJ and DD are the closest, but JJ's offence is way limited, and DD's defence isn't as good as any of the 5 guys GSW rolls out. Most teams are lucky to have one or two versatile two-way wings who could start. And no team in the league has a primary scorer who's such an elite perimeter shooter that they can get by without a real threat to score inside.
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Did anyone watch the game last night? Mozgov single handedly kept the Cavs in the game with his defense, eating up that small ball lineup like he walked into some random YMCA.
32 minutes, 17 pts (5-8 FG, 7-8 FT), 12 reb, 2 ast, 4 blks
You know who else had a good game, their other big man Tristan Thompson.
Small ball is extremely hard to pull off unless you have a freak like Draymond Green, that's why so few teams do it. Also, as many have already mentioned, GSW played big during a lot of the playoffs, and you know, foreign concept here, adjusted to what was happening on the court and played small only when it worked to their advantage.
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Primer wrote: View PostDid anyone watch the game last night? Mozgov single handedly kept the Cavs in the game with his defense, eating up that small ball lineup like he walked into some random YMCA.
32 minutes, 17 pts (5-8 FG, 7-8 FT), 12 reb, 2 ast, 4 blks
You know who else had a good game, their other big man Tristan Thompson.
Small ball is extremely hard to pull off unless you have a freak like Draymond Green, that's why so few teams do it. Also, as many have already mentioned, GSW played big during a lot of the playoffs, and you know, foreign concept here, adjusted to what was happening on the court and played small only when it worked to their advantage.
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golden wrote: View PostAnd the Cavs starting backcourt managed only 9 pts collectively (!), on 1-9 shooting. Basically, the Cavs 'smalls' got trounced by superior GSW talent (i.e. Steph Curry) and that was the difference in the game.Heir, Prince of Cambridge
If you see KeonClark in the wasteland, please share your food and water with him.
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Primer wrote: View PostDid anyone watch the game last night? Mozgov single handedly kept the Cavs in the game with his defense, eating up that small ball lineup like he walked into some random YMCA.
32 minutes, 17 pts (5-8 FG, 7-8 FT), 12 reb, 2 ast, 4 blks
You know who else had a good game, their other big man Tristan Thompson.
Small ball is extremely hard to pull off unless you have a freak like Draymond Green, that's why so few teams do it. Also, as many have already mentioned, GSW played big during a lot of the playoffs, and you know, foreign concept here, adjusted to what was happening on the court and played small only when it worked to their advantage.
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McRealistic wrote: View PostJV is going to have a very tough year ahead of him and I feel like MU knows that and he is on board with what Casey is saying ...
I might be wrong but I think if there is a good deal out there, JV might be the one that will be moved and not DD.
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