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Poeltl & Pascal - The 2016 Draft
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"My biggest concern as a coach is to not confuse winning with progress." - Steve Kerr
"If it's unacceptable in defeat, it's unacceptable in victory." - Jeff Van Gundy
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Just Is wrote: View PostOf course, he could not work out but that also applies to everyone else being picked in the draft. I don't think he's a high risk pick personally but can see how that could be seen.
So what I'm merely saying is he wreaks of a boom or bust kind of pick. Picks like this really high in the draft are very difficult to recover from when they don't work out.
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Apollo wrote: View PostMy concern is that with the small sample size he's just as likely to be Bargnani 2.0.
Not so much for NBA teams though. From DX
Nevertheless, Bender has been scouted thoroughly by NBA talent evaluators at every level players his age typically compete, having participated in the Jordan Brand Classic in New York, the NBA Basketball Without Borders Global Camp in New York, two adidas EuroCamps, three FIBA junior championships, three Euroleague International Junior Tournaments, as well as seeing over 500 minutes in a Maccabi Tel Avi uniform at the senior level this season.
Representatives of all 30 NBA teams have been present to watch him play and practice this season according to Maccabi Tel Aviv, including the Euroleague preseason games they played against Armani Milan in Chicago and New York last October.If we knew half as much about coaching an NBA team as we think, we"d know twice as much as we do.
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They have a small sample size to go on as well. He's played limited minutes.
Guys get drafted on upside every year. Those teams like those players as well and some bust. That just means they were wrong. These teams could be wrong here. I mean they don't have a lot to go on.
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planetmars wrote: View PostI hope the 27th pick is a Euro stash or is traded for a future pick. I'd prefer to be cap neutral with that pick so that we have more money to keep BB or to sign a starting caliber PF in case DD leaves. Every penny will matter.
Looking at draftexpress.. I can see a guy like Petr Cornelie being selected. Stretch 4 with a 7'1 wing span. I wouldn't mind having a stretch 4 stashed in Europe.
Cordinier is a 6'5 SG with good athleticism, off ball game and shooting. Needs time overseas, which frees up a roster spot while maintaining an asset.
Big pass on Diallo especially of the college ranks. Just don't see much value in another late prospect taking up a roster spot and playing in Mississauga and can't see a Daniels like path overseas now that the 905s are in play.
I'm still torn between Davis and Skal at 9th for my preference. Chriss is the fall back option to me with Valentine in play if we move a wing.Heir, Prince of Cambridge
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Apollo wrote: View PostThey have a small sample size to go on as well. He's played limited minutes.
Guys get drafted on upside every year. Those teams like those players as well and some bust. That just means they were wrong. These teams could be wrong here. I mean they don't have a lot to go on.
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Kuh wrote: View PostHere's the latest from Nylon Calculus on the draft. They focus on who Boston should take, and in doing so they break the draft down into three tiers, which may interest us.
Tier 1: Ben Simmons, Brandon Ingram
Tier 2: Dragan Bender, Deytona Davis, Jakob Poetl, Diamond Stone
Tier 3: Kris Dunn, Henry Ellenson, Domantis Sabonis, Denzel Valentine and possibly others not listed
http://nyloncalculus.com/2016/05/23/...016-nba-draft/
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Hotshot wrote: View PostDarko Miličić comes to mind and also Bargnani.If we knew half as much about coaching an NBA team as we think, we"d know twice as much as we do.
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Kuh wrote: View PostHere's the latest from Nylon Calculus on the draft. They focus on who Boston should take, and in doing so they break the draft down into three tiers, which may interest us.
Tier 1: Ben Simmons, Brandon Ingram
Tier 2: Dragan Bender, Deytona Davis, Jakob Poetl, Diamond Stone
Tier 3: Kris Dunn, Henry Ellenson, Domantis Sabonis, Denzel Valentine and possibly others not listed
http://nyloncalculus.com/2016/05/23/...016-nba-draft/
27 pick i am really leaning towards zhou now. we immediately become the biggest market team in the league/world. represent two countries. instantly. kid doesn't even need to play and it immediately offsets any future luxury costs.
this is the proper team move in my opinion.
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Bender is highly regarded and has been for a good while. There's a reason he's been at the top of the charts all year despite barely playing. I know I'd love to have him - a point-4 with the size and athleticism to play either bigman position in the modern NBA, a wealthy-man's Boris Diaw?
Yeah, I'd take that.
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