power forward prospects

[planetmars]

Between Faried, T Jones, Gibson, Morris and Harris, here's how I would rank them:

1. Faried
2. T Jones
3. Morris
4. Harris
5. Gibson

I pick Faried first because he's an elite rebounder, and the Raptors need rebounding (even with JV grabbing 10 a game). Last year they were ranked 26th in the league, and it was a big problem. His defensive win shares tied Gibson @ 2.1 last year.. while playing for a far inferior team. So I don't think he will be that detrimental to their defense. Morris was first @ 2.7. Faried had the highest overall win share at 5.6. He also has the highest PER (although only beat Jones by 0.1).

Faried can't shoot the 3 at all.. his game is put back dunks like Tristan Thompson.. but on a team with Lowry/Caroll/Patterson he may not need a 3. Amir didn't have one, and that was okay.

He also has a very good contract.. essentially $12.5M per year for the next 4 years which will look great in the new cap world. Harris would have to get the max for Orlando not to match. T Jones is an RFA next year and with the cap going up (as we've seen) could command $15M+ per year as well. Morris is on a great contract at only $8M per for the next 4 years.

Trading for Faried also hurts Denver which improves the 2016 pick.

From an asset perspective though Faried will cost the most. TJones/Morris may be had for cheap if Houston/Phoenix need to shed salary cap. Chicago may dump Gibson as well since they just signed Butler to the max. Harris would also cost an asset as the Raptors would need to pull off a S&T.

[92TillInfinity]

Between Faried, T Jones, Gibson, Morris and Harris, here's how I would rank them:

1. Faried
2. T Jones
3. Morris
4. Harris
5. Gibson

I pick Faried first because he's an elite rebounder, and the Raptors need rebounding (even with JV grabbing 10 a game). Last year they were ranked 26th in the league, and it was a big problem. His defensive win shares tied Gibson @ 2.1 last year.. while playing for a far inferior team. So I don't think he will be that detrimental to their defense. Morris was first @ 2.7. Faried had the highest overall win share at 5.6. He also has the highest PER (although only beat Jones by 0.1).

Faried can't shoot the 3 at all.. his game is put back dunks like Tristan Thompson.. but on a team with Lowry/Caroll/Patterson he may not need a 3. Amir didn't have one, and that was okay.

He also has a very good contract.. essentially $12.5M per year for the next 4 years which will look great in the new cap world. Harris would have to get the max for Orlando not to match. T Jones is an RFA next year and with the cap going up (as we've seen) could command $15M+ per year as well. Morris is on a great contract at only $8M per for the next 4 years.

Trading for Faried also hurts Denver which improves the 2016 pick.

From an asset perspective though Faried will cost the most. TJones/Morris may be had for cheap if Houston/Phoenix need to shed salary cap. Chicago may dump Gibson as well since they just signed Butler to the max. Harris would also cost an asset as the Raptors would need to pull off a S&T.

Don't try and tell Jack Armstrong that.

[ceez]

to me Terrence Jones should be target #1

Faried is kind of overrated. how does an "elite" rebounder only average 9 a game? why isn't he playing more minutes a game?

because his defense is so bad? he offers little on offense? i'd pass.

Jones has a higher ofensive and defensive win share with a higher rating per 48 minutes.

nevermind his contract is wayyyyy better.

[Joey]

to me Terrence Jones should be target #1

Faried is kind of overrated. how does an "elite" rebounder only average 9 a game? why isn't he playing more minutes a game?

because his defense is so bad? he offers little on offense? i'd pass.

Jones has a higher ofensive and defensive win share with a higher rating per 48 minutes.

nevermind his contract is wayyyyy better.

Just say he's better. Because he is.

[ceez]

Terrence Jones is younger, cheaper and arguably better than Kenneth Faried. The end.

[Axel]

Don't try and tell Jack Armstrong that.

Or Casey. Have people forgotten?

Dwayne Casey used a timeout to set up a game-winning corner 3 from Amir Johnson. I think that's a fireable offense. Pack your bags, Dwayne.

— Bill Simmons (@BillSimmons) November 27, 2013

Love finding old gems. November 2013, and who says Bill Simmons is full of BS?

[planetmars]

Last year T Jones had a DWS of 1.3 and OWS of 1.7.

Faried had a DWS of 2.1 and OWS of 3.5. He also had a higher TRB% than any other PF prospect we've been talking about.

[Axel]

Last year T Jones had a DWS of 1.3 and OWS of 1.7.

Faried had a DWS of 2.1 and OWS of 3.5. He also had a higher TRB% than any other PF prospect we've been talking about.

I'm not a fan of acquiring Faried, but at this point, he is better than Jones. That said, Jones is 2 years younger.

[ceez]

Last year T Jones had a DWS of 1.3 and OWS of 1.7.

Faried had a DWS of 2.1 and OWS of 3.5. He also had a higher TRB% than any other PF prospect we've been talking about.

yikes i was looking at the career total for Jones. my bad.

his win/share per 48 is still higher.

point im trying and failing to make is imho you'll get more out of jones as a full time starter at PF than Faried

[Joey]

Last year T Jones had a DWS of 1.3 and OWS of 1.7.

Faried had a DWS of 2.1 and OWS of 3.5. He also had a higher TRB% than any other PF prospect we've been talking about.

Its hard to find those sort of stats for just final 2 months of the season when Jones was finally fully healthy and given a contributing role on the team, but I would venture to guess they'd be superior to even those of Faried.

Granted, Faried is likely a better rebounder, but what Jones offers on defense, as well as offense, is something Faried can't even get close to. In my (limited) opinion.

[Axel]

yikes i was looking at the career total for Jones. my bad.

his win/share per 48 is still higher.

point im trying and failing to make is imho you'll get more out of jones as a full time starter at PF than Faried

Not last year, and maybe not next year, but in 2 years you are probably right. Feel free to remind us all then

[ceez]

Not last year, and maybe not next year, but in 2 years you are probably right. Feel free to remind us all then

i will!

[stooley]

I don't get the love for jones. Had pretty bad rpm and warp. Morris is elite in those stats. I like him more

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[Nilanka]

I don't get the love for jones. Had pretty bad rpm and warp. Morris is elite in those stats. I like him more

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I like Morris too. I think his value isn't perceived as high as others because execs are never certain if he's the shitty twin.

[ceez]

I don't get the love for jones. Had pretty bad rpm and warp. Morris is elite in those stats. I like him more

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morris is a twin and convicted felon