Casey: "We Have To Participate In The Trend Of Going Small At The End of Games"

[Mindlessness]

JV's production has already surpassed that of rookie Gasol. He produced almost the same stats in less playing time and also did so more efficiently than Gasol did.

I keep telling people that we have a potential Pseudo-#1 guy on our hands in JV if we would just give him the damn PT. Give him the 30-35mpg that Gasol got, give him some time to get comfortable with his mid-range game (which he can hit but is just not comfortable shooting yet) and we will have a lethal offensive weapon on our hands. He's every bit as mobile as Gasol and almost as long and bulky, there's no reason why he can't grow into an elite defender/rim protector like Gasol became.

He'll never have the passing game that Gasol has, but in terms of scoring he can be right there with him (and possibly more efficient), and he can be better than him on the glass and just as good defensively. The kid is currently being neutered. Sometimes guys emerge as stars when given the opportunity, look at Paul George, Jimmy Butler... or an extreme example... Harden.

The kid has some insane talent, let him use it dammit! The Spurs were willing to part with prime Tony Parker for this dude for Pete's sake.

I agree with everything. I honestly believe that if you give Jonas enough minutes, run an inside-out offense, give him touches, and improve his post-passing/mid-range game, he'll breakout like George/Butler (or even Harden like you said) and it'll become THAT much easier to build a championship-calibre team.

Whether that actually happens or not who knows. But it is my greatest hope. Possibly the most realistic as well.

[tDotted]

Haha we got called out on BR. Good read on small ball.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...r-all-30-teams

To Each Its Own

It's not a formula that will work for every team. Golden State's positionless approach wouldn't go far without players who can guard multiple positions, a hallmark for Green, Barnes and Iguodala. Warriors assistant coach and defensive specialist Ron Adams went so far as to suggest Barnes enjoyed the chance to check larger opposition on the interior.

...

Many teams simply don't have those kinds of defenders, and for them, a rim-protecting center may be a virtual necessity. And when possible, most clubs prefer to have size at the 4 spot as well—even if it's of the stretch-4 variety.

In general, verticality is still an important dimension of the game. So too is interior play in its various guises. No matter how perimeter-oriented scoring stratagems becomes, there will be value in high-percentage field-goal attempts from the painted area—and all the more value in shot-blockers who can deter and deflect those attempts.

There are also varying motivations. The Warriors go small in order to dictate spacing and tempo. The Toronto Raptors, on the other hand, may find themselves going small simply to keep up with the opposition.

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Small ball will remain a novel topic around water coolers, but it remains more a situational strategy than a way of life. It has a time and place—but that time isn't always, and it's not for everyone.

[KeonClark]

Haha we got called out on BR. Good read on small ball.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...r-all-30-teams

The jist of the whole article is that small ball should be used when it is to your advantage, and you have at least 3 really skilled smaller players that can guard multiple positions, otherwise use your height and verticality advantages when you have them. Of the "position-less" defenders in our starting lineup, we have Carroll. And that's it. Then we have a 7 ft center as one of our two or 3 best options on offense.

Just more fuel on the Casey fire

[raptors999]

The jist of the whole article is that small ball should be used when it is to your advantage, and you have at least 3 really skilled smaller players that can guard multiple positions, otherwise use your height and verticality advantages when you have them. Of the "position-less" defenders in our starting lineup, we have Carroll. And that's it. Then we have a 7 ft center as one of our two or 3 best options on offense.

Just more fuel on the Casey fire

It's basically throwing matches into a bonfire.

[OldSkoolCool]

Transcribed from 3:25

Question to McHale, what do you think of small ball and analytics from your old school stance?

McHale:

"You know, I look at basketball as I want to get the ball in the paint every single possession....you can get it in there 3 different ways, you can drive it in there, you can pass it in there, or you can rebound it in there. All three ways collapse the defense. And then if you collapse the defense as the ball does get in the paint and you do throw it out...If you step back [motions with hands about 2 feet] that much more and get an extra point, I just don't understand why you wouldn't do it. If your range can't be improved by that much, you really are a bad basketball player [laughter]. You can improve your range by a foot and a half....

The skill level is coming back and I think that is why people play small guys now, cause small guys tend to be more skilled. But I can guarantee one thing, tall skilled beats small skilled all the time. Now a small skilled beats a tall stiff all the time [laughter]. But I mean there is just no way, honestly I watched, you know, your Golden State series [motions to Gentry] and said I would love to have Draymond Green guard me! [laughter]. I don't care how many threes he makes or whatever he was doing. There is no way that guy, he couldn't grow enough to guard me, I mean you know."

It transitions into another segment after that.

I would like to point out the bolds though

The first is quite literally immediately solved by utilizing JV in the post.

The second is just a massive shot right to the mcnuggets at DD. So much so that somewhere Chr1st1anL and Special1 are crying. This is coming from Kevin McHale, a top 5 coach in the NBA

The third is where I hope MU is going. In a league lacking big man talent, I want to be one of the team with big man talent.

[Chr1s1anL]

Transcribed from 3:25

Question to McHale, what do you think of small ball and analytics from your old school stance?

McHale:

"You know, I look at basketball as I want to get the ball in the paint every single possession....you can get it in there 3 different ways, you can drive it in there, you can pass it in there, or you can rebound it in there. All three ways collapse the defense. And then if you collapse the defense as the ball does get in the paint and you do throw it out...If you step back [motions with hands about 2 feet] that much more and get an extra point, I just don't understand why you wouldn't do it. If your range can't be improved by that much, you really are a bad basketball player [laughter]. You can improve your range by a foot and a half....

The skill level is coming back and I think that is why people play small guys now, cause small guys tend to be more skilled. But I can guarantee one thing, tall skilled beats small skilled all the time. Now a small skilled beats a tall stiff all the time [laughter]. But I mean there is just no way, honestly I watched, you know, your Golden State series [motions to Gentry] and said I would love to have Draymond Green guard me! [laughter]. I don't care how many threes he makes or whatever he was doing. There is no way that guy, he couldn't grow enough to guard me, I mean you know."

It transitions into another segment after that.

I would like to point out the bolds though

The first is quite literally immediately solved by utilizing JV in the post.

The second is just a massive shot right to the mcnuggets at DD. So much so that somewhere Chr1st1anL and Special1 are crying. This is coming from Kevin McHale, a top 5 coach in the NBA

The third is where I hope MU is going. In a league lacking big man talent, I want to be one of the team with big man talent.

There's the part where he mention "Tall stiff will lose to small skilled". JV has one post move. That top 5 coach is talking about dominant post player. JV is not dominant on the block.

[Chr1s1anL]

They also said that big man will have to be able to guard the perimeter. How confident are you that JV will be able to do that?

[Superjudge]

hahaha if ever there was a blatent misuse of quotes....

[3inthekeon]

Haha we got called out on BR. Good read on small ball.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...r-all-30-teams

Of course, this part of the article has been completely ignored.

It's become increasingly difficult to deploy lumbering, hulking rim protectors; that much is true. The speed, motion and pick-and-roll-heavy trends around the league demand a different kind of big man, a more mobile one capable of covering territory, recovering, stepping out to the perimeter and controlling interior airspace. The new breed is capable of switching defensively regardless of who's handling the rock, giving rise to endless talk about versatility.

Does that sound like JV?

[Apollo]

It doesn't matter. This is the flavor of the month and it doesn't mean its staying or that you can't build a winner without doing it exactly that way. You build winners by collecting as much talent as possible and last time I checked JV was very talented.

[Snooch]

Of course, this part of the article has been completely ignored.



Does that sound like JV?

No, because JV was one of the best in the league last season at guarding the pick and roll, his numbers matched that of Tyson Chandler.

[3inthekeon]

It doesn't matter. This is the flavor of the month and it doesn't mean its staying or that you can't build a winner without doing it exactly that way. You build winners by collecting as much talent as possible and last time I checked JV was very talented.

Not saying he's not talented. But he's a poor fit when opponents go small, no matter how much most of this board believes otherwise.

[mcHAPPY]

Not saying he's not talented. But he's a poor fit when opponents go small, no matter how much most of this board believes otherwise.

I think the bigger issue around these parts is that Casey doesn't:
1) employ defensive schemes to match his roster,
2) be the aggressor and make the other team match JV....but that would require faith and touches.

[Apollo]

Not saying he's not talented. But he's a poor fit when opponents go small, no matter how much most of this board believes otherwise.

That goes both ways however. If he had a coach who could utilize his strengths he would be getting the ball inside more, allowing him to take advantage of his size and strength.

Also, small ball is not new and there are many examples of teams defending it without needing a roster overhaul.

Don't get too caught up with the trendies and what they think. Whatever just won is what they're going to say is what's required to win. Just like you needed three superstars to win up until this season...

I think the bigger issue around these parts is that Casey doesn't:
1) employ defensive schemes to match his roster,
2) be the aggressor and make the other team match JV....but that would require faith and touches.

To paraphrase my post above, what he said.

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[3inthekeon]

PPat and Amir were 2 of the best hedgers in the NBA. Lowry is a terrific help defender and Derozan fits Casey's scheme. So it does fit much of the roster. BTW, Scola and Carroll are also excellent hedgers.

JV does not fit Casey's scheme. Should the Raptors build their defensive schemes around JV, and ignore the strengths of the rest of the roster? Okay.