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  • Apollo wrote: View Post
    I heard the interview. It sounded like at the heart of his statement was that he was ready to lead and it wasn't handed to him. He had to work really hard, it didn't come easy.
    Poor choice of words if that's what he was trying to get across, but if that's what he meant I can give him a pass.
    Sunny ways my friends, sunny ways
    Because its 2015

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    • He wasn't bragging, it didn't sound like that to me. He was responding to this false idea that he was spoon fed the most important role in Canada. Whether or not he performs is debatable but what he's achieved is amazing.

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      • The man that just keeps on giving our money away.

        http://www.cp24.com/mobile/news/cana...ions-1.2677426

        $2.65Billion to a climate fund to help developing nations. Hmm. That's very kind of him. Let's see how much more money he can give away on his charitable celebrity tour around the world.

        Now he can march proudly into that hippie convention and declare to all the nations of the world "come to me for moneyyyyyyyy, we will DEFEAT climattteeeee chaaannnnggeeeeee!!!!!" (Imagine braveheart voice)

        This is sooooooo great. Really good stuff. Really good. So happy. Happy ways my friends, happy ways.
        Sunny ways my friends, sunny ways
        Because its 2015

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        • Apollo wrote: View Post
          I heard the interview. It sounded like at the heart of his statement was that he was ready to lead and it wasn't handed to him. He had to work really hard, it didn't come easy.

          Right, so you'd rather him have Canada turn their back on the international community and become one of those darling countries such as Iran, North Korea, Cuba, etc.?

          Not to mention you don't even bother supporting such a bold claim that the UN is corrupt or explain in what way or on what level?
          Just one example.

          http://www.wsj.com/articles/united-n...ges-1446024604

          It's a collection of nations that doesn't reject corrupt and oppressive government and gives everyone an equal seat at the table. It's fcking insane.

          Here's a list of current membership in HUMAN RIGHTS council. Human rights...

          http://www.ohchr.org/EN/HRBodies/HRC...ntMembers.aspx

          Some of my favorites, the human right capitals of the world:

          Algeria
          Bangladesh
          China
          Bolivia
          Botswana
          Ethiopia
          Qatar
          Russia
          Saudi Arabia
          Sierra Leone.

          The best part is, there is absolutely zero corruption in any of those countries. None. Zero. Zilch. Nada.
          Sunny ways my friends, sunny ways
          Because its 2015

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          • The Human Rights Council really is a farce.

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            • Nilanka wrote: View Post
              The Human Rights Council really is a farce.
              The UN is a farce. And it's corrupt. That's why Harper tried to distance Canada from it. The UN has no morals, it's an enabler and a global redistribution network. That's it's. It's an absolute joke and Trudeau is just giving away OUR money to them!


              It's ok though only 4 more years of this to go. I said people will regret electing this moron in 2 years, at this rate it'll be next week.
              Sunny ways my friends, sunny ways
              Because its 2015

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              • Uncle_Si wrote: View Post
                The UN is a farce. And it's corrupt. That's why Harper tried to distance Canada from it. The UN has no morals, it's an enabler and a global redistribution network. That's it's. It's an absolute joke and Trudeau is just giving away OUR money to them!


                It's ok though only 4 more years of this to go. I said people will regret electing this moron in 2 years, at this rate it'll be next week.
                I suppose you conveniently forget or worse are not aware of all the positive things in health, poverty, hunger, environment (oh I forgot you dont like that one) the UN is involved in etc etc.

                If you didnt have a UN you'd have to invent one. Watch how the countries involved in Syria comes to the UN as a meeting place.

                4 more years? Dream on. 8 at least.

                Steve H. rather than helping either the ordinary Canadian or others in need (which has been our history) enacted tax laws to help the richer in society. Like I wrote previously he is a mini-me of the Republican party/Grover Norquist political makeup of the US.
                Last edited by Bendit; Fri Nov 27, 2015, 11:53 PM.

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                • There continues to be a much bigger threat from domestic terrorists than from refugees.

                  http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...ticle-comments

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                  • Bendit wrote: View Post
                    I suppose you conveniently forget or worse are not aware of all the positive things in health, poverty, hunger, environment (oh I forgot you dont like that one) the UN is involved in etc etc.

                    If you didnt have a UN you'd have to invent one. Watch how the countries involved in Syria comes to the UN as a meeting place.

                    4 more years? Dream on. 8 at least.

                    Steve H. rather than helping either the ordinary Canadian or others in need (which has been our history) enacted tax laws to help the richer in society. Like I wrote previously he is a mini-me of the Republican party/Grover Norquist political makeup of the US.
                    I dont conveniently forget anything. I understand what the UN initially set out to do, and in theory (like many liberal ideas) it's fine and good. However, (like many liberal ideas) it opens an opportunity for abuse, waste and corruption. It also (like many liberal ideas) leads to power through dependency, where the UN now dictates to poorer countries how they will develop if they want money even though what the UN is pushing isn't best for the country.

                    What the fck are you talking about. What laws made the rich richer?! And if the do rich get richer that means the working class is getting richer. Which is why Canada, according to multiple surveys, has the strongest or one of the strongest middle classes in the world. I'm sick of this bullshit rhetoric about "oh conservatives only care about rich people". No they care about everyone with the idea being if business is successful workers will be successful and of workers are successful the economy is successful. So yes, I am pro business and growth and yes I believe the people that are brave enough, smart enough or lucky enough to run a successful business deserve to reap the benefits of that. Not only do businesses employ people they also provide a service or good that people want or need.

                    Enough with your commie socialist rhetoric. I'm sick of people living in a world where all they see is the oppressor and the oppressed. Open your fcking eyes, there's a million opportunities out there for everyone if they just stop feeling sorry for themselves and seize it. Nothing in life is easy, and successful people by and large had to work for everything they have so stop with the pathetic demonization of the successful. Stop looking at everyone as a fcking victim. Bunch of liberal whiners all the time. Oh this isn't fair, oh he has this or she has that, why can't I have that, wah wah. Enough.

                    Taking from one person to give to another doesn't create wealth and it doesn't create growth. It creates dependency and it stifles production and ambition.
                    Sunny ways my friends, sunny ways
                    Because its 2015

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                    • SkywalkerAC wrote: View Post
                      There continues to be a much bigger threat from domestic terrorists than from refugees.

                      http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...ticle-comments
                      That's America, not Canada. Different culture. Different gun laws.

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                      • Apollo wrote: View Post
                        That's America, not Canada. Different culture. Different gun laws.
                        You think gun laws have to do with it? Lol

                        Chicago has the strictest gun laws in the states. They had over 2600 shootings this year and of those over 400 were deaths.

                        It's the people that are fucked not the laws. If you're willing to kill someone a gun law isn't going to stop you.

                        Great, now we opened up a gun control debate. Game on.
                        Sunny ways my friends, sunny ways
                        Because its 2015

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                        • Uncle_Si wrote: View Post
                          I dont conveniently forget anything. I understand what the UN initially set out to do, and in theory (like many liberal ideas) it's fine and good. However, (like many liberal ideas) it opens an opportunity for abuse, waste and corruption. It also (like many liberal ideas) leads to power through dependency, where the UN now dictates to poorer countries how they will develop if they want money even though what the UN is pushing isn't best for the country.

                          What the fck are you talking about. What laws made the rich richer?! And if the do rich get richer that means the working class is getting richer. Which is why Canada, according to multiple surveys, has the strongest or one of the strongest middle classes in the world. I'm sick of this bullshit rhetoric about "oh conservatives only care about rich people". No they care about everyone with the idea being if business is successful workers will be successful and of workers are successful the economy is successful. So yes, I am pro business and growth and yes I believe the people that are brave enough, smart enough or lucky enough to run a successful business deserve to reap the benefits of that. Not only do businesses employ people they also provide a service or good that people want or need.

                          Enough with your commie socialist rhetoric. I'm sick of people living in a world where all they see is the oppressor and the oppressed. Open your fcking eyes, there's a million opportunities out there for everyone if they just stop feeling sorry for themselves and seize it. Nothing in life is easy, and successful people by and large had to work for everything they have so stop with the pathetic demonization of the successful. Stop looking at everyone as a fcking victim. Bunch of liberal whiners all the time. Oh this isn't fair, oh he has this or she has that, why can't I have that, wah wah. Enough.

                          Taking from one person to give to another doesn't create wealth and it doesn't create growth. It creates dependency and it stifles production and ambition.
                          Please allow me to correct you re your atypical assumptions about giving liberals credit for everything "bad" in your view. The UN would/could not come to be without the tacit agreement, understanding and cooperation of 3 other signatories of the original agreement....Britain (led by Churchill), Soviet U. (led by Stalin) and China (led by Gen. Chiang K Shek). Nice mix of leadership dont you think...a Democrat pres. of the US (FDR), a Tory, a communist and a general/conservative.

                          I do not defend the UN in all matters. As with all large institutions over time it needs a facelift on how it operates. I am arguing that on balance it does much much more good than what got you all in a lather...the makeup of a committee which if looked into deeper is probably just another bureaucratic creation with very little clout in the overall scheme of upholding human rights...which I previously mentioned as being hunger, poverty, education and health (at least). In theseareas the UN does much good work and upholds those very HR principles in a tangible way.

                          The rest of your post points have been discussed before.

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                          • Uncle_Si wrote: View Post
                            You think gun laws have to do with it? Lol

                            Chicago has the strictest gun laws in the states. They had over 2600 shootings this year and of those over 400 were deaths.

                            It's the people that are fucked not the laws. If you're willing to kill someone a gun law isn't going to stop you.

                            Great, now we opened up a gun control debate. Game on.

                            Oh man you have become so predictable on how the extreme right in the US are wired to respond on issues...as confirmed by this excerpt on the very subject!

                            Any time an article is written about the overlap of gun violence and politics, there is one response that is guaranteed to be offered: "What about Chicago?" Say that mass shootings have occurred hundreds of times in the last few years and you're asked, "What about Chicago?" Talk about the politics of background check legislation and someone will respond, "What about Chicago?"
                            https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...st-of-america/

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                            • Uncle_Si wrote: View Post
                              You think gun laws have to do with it? Lol

                              Chicago has the strictest gun laws in the states. They had over 2600 shootings this year and of those over 400 were deaths.

                              It's the people that are fucked not the laws. If you're willing to kill someone a gun law isn't going to stop you.

                              Great, now we opened up a gun control debate. Game on.
                              I said culture and laws. America has a gun culture, we don't. I would ask you what about all the shootings in places where there aren't any laws? Just because Chicago is violent with laws in place doesn't disprove the idea that guns should be restricted to those who've earned the right to use them by doing safety courses and having background checks performed. It sounds like common sense to me.

                              A car can be a dangerous weapon as well and you need a license. Same idea.

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                              • Apollo wrote: View Post
                                I said culture and laws. America has a gun culture, we don't. I would ask you what about all the shootings in places where there aren't any laws? Just because Chicago is violent with laws in place doesn't disprove the idea that guns should be restricted to those who've earned the right to use them by doing safety courses and having background checks performed. It sounds like common sense to me.

                                A car can be a dangerous weapon as well and you need a license. Same idea.

                                Ok, well Colorado already has all of the laws in place that Obama wants. They put them into law after sandy hook. (Extended background checks, smaller magazines).

                                How is it an "extreme right wing" response when it's one founded in fact? (Unless that's what you mean by it)

                                I don't know how much it is a gun culture thing. The guy was also planting what they think we're bombs around and in the building. The guy is a lunatic. He should be put to death once he's convicted for his crimes. I think you should punish anyone that commits a gun crime to the absolute full extent of the law, and anyone that decides to massacre innocent people deserves to be put to death.

                                There are bad people out there that want to do bad things. Whether it is difficult or easy to get guns doesn't prevent them from their desire to commit an evil and atrocious act.

                                bombs are illegal, that didn't stop the Boston bombers. The theater the nut job in Colorado went into a couple years ago was a gun free zone, and his place was wired with all kinds of bombs which are also illegal. And last time I checked it's illegal to kill someone. None of that stops these people. They are bad, evil people. Resources should be spent on preventing and identifying those potential threats.
                                Sunny ways my friends, sunny ways
                                Because its 2015

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