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Game #1: Indiana Pacers 99 - Toronto Raptors 106
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"We're playing in a building." -- Kawhi Leonard
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I know the game is "moving to positionless basketball" but over the past two or so years, all we Raptor fans have known has been a 1-2-2-4-5 position lineup (implying Ross is better suited to be a 2 than a 3). It should be interesting to see what if any effect having a 1-2-3-4-5 line up has. I realize this is tossing up a softball for anyone who says we're going to have a 1-1-1-1-1 lineup but please resist the temptation.
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CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View PostI want to hate this decision, but I actually don't mind it, given the particular matchups.
I like bringing Ross into the starting lineup over Patterson, to ensure there's still a 3pt threat to spread the floor (which you don't have with Scola and wouldn't have with JJ).
DC defending George - good
Ross defending Miles - good (better than asking Scola/PP to guard George/Miles)
DeRozan defending Ellis - bad (I actually hope Ross guards Ellis, though I'd try to let DeRozan post-up Ellis offensively)
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— Ryan Wolstat (@WolstatSun) October 28, 2015
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MixxAOR wrote: View PostTonight's gifts to Raptors fans pic.twitter.com/HAGpvhix7n
— Ryan Wolstat (@WolstatSun) October 28, 2015
"We're playing in a building." -- Kawhi Leonard
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CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View PostI want to hate this decision, but I actually don't mind it, given the particular matchups.
I like bringing Ross into the starting lineup over Patterson, to ensure there's still a 3pt threat to spread the floor (which you don't have with Scola and wouldn't have with JJ).
DC defending George - good
Ross defending Miles - good (better than asking Scola/PP to guard George/Miles)
DeRozan defending Ellis - bad (I actually hope Ross guards Ellis, though I'd try to let DeRozan post-up Ellis offensively)
Carroll guarding Milsap/Favors/ZBo bad
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raptors999 wrote: View PostBasically gives in to Indy before tip-off. They don't have to question anything or adjust if things go wrong early
It also lures Indy's PF out to the perimeter to guard a 3pt threat, removing a big body from the lane, which bodes well for Lowry/DeRozan/Ross dribble-penetration and JV/DeRozan post-ups.
I don't like the lineup in general, but I do for this matchup (as I indicated in my previous post), especially since George is Indy's only real threat. I think forcing Indy's supporting cast to beat you is a sound strategy.Last edited by CalgaryRapsFan; Wed Oct 28, 2015, 05:37 PM.
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CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View PostI disagree. I think it puts the Raptors' best defender on Indy's best player, without having to ask a traditional big to defend Miles.
It also lures Indy's PF out to the perimeter to guard a 3pt threat, removing a big body from the lane, which bodes well for Lowry/DeRozan/Ross dribble-penetration and JV/DeRozan post-ups.
Doesn't matter, just stoked for a real NBA game. Just wish there was a way for the Raptors players to win and Casey to get fired.
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CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View PostI want to hate this decision, but I actually don't mind it, given the particular matchups.
I like bringing Ross into the starting lineup over Patterson, to ensure there's still a 3pt threat to spread the floor (which you don't have with Scola and wouldn't have with JJ).
DC defending George - good
Ross defending Miles - good (better than asking Scola/PP to guard George/Miles)
DeRozan defending Ellis - bad (I actually hope Ross guards Ellis, though I'd try to let DeRozan post-up Ellis offensively)
I thought matching up big to start was a great way to get one or two of their starters in foul trouble (obviously not guaranteed). Just post up one of Ellis, George or Miles on every play for the first 3-4 minutes.
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white men can't jump wrote: View PostMy issue is it makes things easier on them defensively. Now they'll just hide Ellis on Ross. They won't be able to attack him. And with Scola out, it'll be harder to attack George/Miles (whoever they'd put on him, not sure they'd put George).
I thought matching up big to start was a great way to get one or two of their starters in foul trouble (obviously not guaranteed). Just post up one of Ellis, George or Miles on every play for the first 3-4 minutes.
In this instance, I prefer the defensive approach, for two reasons:
1. I don't think Indy has enough secondary scoring; shut down George = shut down Indy
2. I don't think Indy is great defensively in general, so there are still matchups to exploit (pulling their PF to the perimeter should help at least as much as the direct Scola/George matchup would)
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CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View PostI disagree. I think it puts the Raptors' best defender on Indy's best player, without having to ask a traditional big to defend Miles.
It also lures Indy's PF out to the perimeter to guard a 3pt threat, removing a big body from the lane, which bodes well for Lowry/DeRozan/Ross dribble-penetration and JV/DeRozan post-ups.
I don't like the lineup in general, but I do for this matchup (as I indicated in my previous post), especially since George is Indy's only real threat. I think forcing Indy's supporting cast to beat you is a sound strategy.
You get your best defender on George, but you could do that before anyway. George is Indy's best player, and Ellis is easily their 2nd best as a scorer at least. You'll put less pressure on each now *when they're on D. It's easier to hide Ellis and George now. And since Miles mostly depends on other to create looks for him, if your D is breaking down and making him an option for kickouts, it really doesn't matter to me if you've got DeMar or Scola on him (since I assume that's who they'll put DeMar on as the easiest matchup).
It's a "better" defensive matchup, but it also takes away our chance to force them out of their comfort zone. And given they're a team with poor size and depth, they'd likely have a hard time adjusting.Last edited by white men can't jump; Wed Oct 28, 2015, 05:53 PM.
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