Bulls-Grizzlies

[charlesnba23]

Not Raptors related but hey why not

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=pp9qmew

Derrick Rose and Joakim Noah for Zach Randolph, Mike Conley, Jeff Green and Tony Allen.

Brings Rose back to Memphis. Bulls are rumored to starting giving up on him.

Conley's contract is up at the end of this season so Grizzlies rather trade him than lose him for nothing. Bulls won't have any problem resigning him.

This trade also gives the Bulls the opportunity to trade Taj Gibson (to the Raptors ).

Also gives them a good wing defender and a veteran Pf/C in Zbo and a good role player in Green whose contract also ends at the end of this season.

Noah will be a good backup to Marc Gasol in Memphis. Could maybe start. Contract ends this year too but maybe he could resign.

Thoughts?

[charlesnba23]

EDIT Blockbuster trade including us:
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=q5fxxwb

Chicago acquire Kyle Lowry, DeMar DeRozan, Zach Randolph and Tony Allen
Memphis acquire Derrick Rose and Patrick Patterson
Toronto acquire Joakim Noah, Taj Gibson and Mike Conley

Obvious reasons for each team, IMO. Chicago could give us a future second round pick in that trade.

[raptors999]

EDIT Blockbuster trade including us:
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=q5fxxwb

Chicago acquire Kyle Lowry, DeMar DeRozan, Zach Randolph and Tony Allen
Memphis acquire Derrick Rose and Patrick Patterson
Toronto acquire Joakim Noah, Taj Gibson and Mike Conley

Obvious reasons for each team, IMO. Chicago could give us a future second round pick in that trade.

Raptors trade the starting backcourt for the Bulls bench frontcourt and Conley and Griz take Roses' terrible contract and Patterson to not have a PG for long stretches. Bulls dump 2 bad contracts and Taj the only player they like now for Lowry and Zbo since they likely wont re-sign Demar if they need to pay Zbo

[charlesnba23]

Raptors trade the starting backcourt for the Bulls bench frontcourt and Conley and Griz take Roses' terrible contract and Patterson to not have a PG for long stretches. Bulls dump 2 bad contracts and Taj the only player they like now for Lowry and Zbo since they likely wont re-sign Demar if they need to pay Zbo

Yes exactly. You look only at the bad sides.

None of these teams are going to win a championship with their current core. I will add this: Raps could give Biyombo to the Bulls.

+ for the Bulls: Get a legit PG who's at his best right now. Get another scoring punch in DD for this season. Get another decent scorer in ZBo and another legit wing defender in Allen. Get a cheap backup C in Bismack.

Gasol/Biyombo/Felicio
Mirotic/Randolph/Portis
Butler/McDermott/Snell
DeRozan/Dunleavy/Moore
Lowry/Hinrich/Brooks

+ for the Grizzlies: Get a star player in Rose (not only on the court), who would be coming back to where he spent his NCAA time. Get a stretch for to fit alongside Gasol.

Gasol/Wright
Patterson/Green/Martin
Green/Barnes/Ennis
Lee/Carter/Adams
Rose/Chalmers/Smith

+ for the Raptors: Get a legit backup C in Noah who can start if JV is injured. Get their short term solution at the 4 spot. Get a starting PG for this season; by next, CoJo will start.

Valanciunas/Noah/Nogueira
Gibson/Scola/Bennett
Carroll/Johnson/Caboclo
Ross/Powell
Conley/Joseph/Wright

[raptors999]

Yes exactly. You look only at the bad sides.

None of these teams are going to win a championship with their current core. I will add this: Raps could give Biyombo to the Bulls.

+ for the Bulls: Get a legit PG who's at his best right now. Get another scoring punch in DD for this season. Get another decent scorer in ZBo and another legit wing defender in Allen. Get a cheap backup C in Bismack.

Gasol/Biyombo/Felicio
Mirotic/Randolph/Portis
Butler/McDermott/Snell
DeRozan/Dunleavy/Moore
Lowry/Hinrich/Brooks

+ for the Grizzlies: Get a star player in Rose (not only on the court), who would be coming back to where he spent his NCAA time. Get a stretch for to fit alongside Gasol.

Gasol/Wright
Patterson/Green/Martin
Green/Barnes/Ennis
Lee/Carter/Adams
Rose/Chalmers/Smith

+ for the Raptors: Get a legit backup C in Noah who can start if JV is injured. Get their short term solution at the 4 spot. Get a starting PG for this season; by next, CoJo will start.

Valanciunas/Noah/Nogueira
Gibson/Scola/Bennett
Carroll/Johnson/Caboclo
Ross/Powell
Conley/Joseph/Wright

Only team that benefits are the Bulls. They get 2 starters for Rose, both on cheap deal and dump Noah and give up Gibson. Every other team gets much worse

[BobLoblaw]

Yes exactly. You look only at the bad sides.

None of these teams are going to win a championship with their current core. I will add this: Raps could give Biyombo to the Bulls.

+ for the Bulls: Get a legit PG who's at his best right now. Get another scoring punch in DD for this season. Get another decent scorer in ZBo and another legit wing defender in Allen. Get a cheap backup C in Bismack.

Gasol/Biyombo/Felicio
Mirotic/Randolph/Portis
Butler/McDermott/Snell
DeRozan/Dunleavy/Moore
Lowry/Hinrich/Brooks

+ for the Grizzlies: Get a star player in Rose (not only on the court), who would be coming back to where he spent his NCAA time. Get a stretch for to fit alongside Gasol.

Gasol/Wright
Patterson/Green/Martin
Green/Barnes/Ennis
Lee/Carter/Adams
Rose/Chalmers/Smith

+ for the Raptors: Get a legit backup C in Noah who can start if JV is injured. Get their short term solution at the 4 spot. Get a starting PG for this season; by next, CoJo will start.

Valanciunas/Noah/Nogueira
Gibson/Scola/Bennett
Carroll/Johnson/Caboclo
Ross/Powell
Conley/Joseph/Wright

I don't like it for us, although Conley is good. Conley's better than Rose, so I don't see it for the Grizzlies too. If it's to get star name, then they already have a star, Vince Carter.

[raptors999]

I don't like it for us, although Conley is good. Conley's better than Rose, so I don't see it for the Grizzlies too. If it's to get star name, then they already have a star, Vince Carter.

Conleys a UFA this year. Raptors give up Lowry to rent a similar player but a little worse