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  • Chr1s1anL wrote: View Post
    Anyone catch Sully say "This is more than just a 1 year thing. I'm trying to make this home." If He breaks out I think he will be back .
    Money talks..

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    • DanH wrote: View Post
      Will be incredibly difficult to do unless he's happy with a 7M per year deal.
      Nothing is too difficult for Masai. Especially if Sully breaks out.
      @Chr1st1anL

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      • Can't wait to see Sully erase Marcus Smart on a screen. If he plays with a chip on his shoulder those divisional games against Boston are going to be intense.

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        • LJ2 wrote: View Post
          Can't wait to see Sully erase Marcus Smart on a screen. If he plays with a chip on his shoulder those divisional games against Boston are going to be intense.
          You think that will be something. Wait till we run into them in the second round of the playoffs.
          @Chr1st1anL

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          • 3inthekeon wrote: View Post
            Takes 5 seconds to google it
            Thanks for being snarky. I heard about it but I didn't think it was real.

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            • Chr1s1anL wrote: View Post
              Nothing is too difficult for Masai. Especially if Sully breaks out.
              Let's say Sully breaks out and commands a salary like Biz's deal this summer. 18M.

              To clear 18M in cap room, we'd be starting at 16M over the cap...

              We'd need to let PP walk, that gets us to 5M over the cap.

              Then trade Ross for no returning salary, now we're at 5M under the cap.

              Then trade CoJo for no returning salary, now we're at 12M under the cap.

              Then dump both 2017 first round picks for no returning salary, now we're at 13.5M under the cap.

              Then trade Siakam, Bruno and Nogueira for no returning salary, now we're at 18M under the cap.

              So, assuming we are keeping the core of KL-DD-DC-JV, we would need to lose Patterson, Ross, Joseph, both 2017 picks, Siakam, Bruno and Nogueira. Maybe a couple less assets if Sully settles for less than Biz got even though the cap will be higher. And that assumes the latest projection of a 102M cap - if the CBA negotiations take out the artificial second jump (and you can bet the owners will push for that), we'll have even less cap room.
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              • DanH wrote: View Post
                Let's say Sully breaks out and commands a salary like Biz's deal this summer. 18M.

                To clear 18M in cap room, we'd be starting at 16M over the cap...

                We'd need to let PP walk, that gets us to 5M over the cap.

                Then trade Ross for no returning salary, now we're at 5M under the cap.

                Then trade CoJo for no returning salary, now we're at 12M under the cap.

                Then dump both 2017 first round picks for no returning salary, now we're at 13.5M under the cap.

                Then trade Siakam, Bruno and Nogueira for no returning salary, now we're at 18M under the cap.

                So, assuming we are keeping the core of KL-DD-DC-JV, we would need to lose Patterson, Ross, Joseph, both 2017 picks, Siakam, Bruno and Nogueira. Maybe a couple less assets if Sully settles for less than Biz got even though the cap will be higher. And that assumes the latest projection of a 102M cap - if the CBA negotiations take out the artificial second jump (and you can bet the owners will push for that), we'll have even less cap room.
                it won't happen if you don't believe

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                • Miekenstien wrote: View Post
                  it won't happen if you don't believe
                  I believe that Masai could make it happen. I also believe that he's smart enough not to.
                  Heir, Prince of Cambridge

                  If you see KeonClark in the wasteland, please share your food and water with him.

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                  • @Chr1st1anL

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                    • Sullinger: Money can’t buy happiness, but winning does

                      @Chr1st1anL

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                      • Miekenstien wrote: View Post
                        it won't happen if you don't believe
                        A) It didn't happen with Biz so how could it happen with Sully?!

                        B) Ever think that come summer 2017 the Raptors might go for even a bigger fish?! Milsap , Gallinari , Blake Griffin, Ibaka.

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                        • DanH wrote: View Post
                          Let's say Sully breaks out and commands a salary like Biz's deal this summer. 18M.

                          To clear 18M in cap room, we'd be starting at 16M over the cap...

                          We'd need to let PP walk, that gets us to 5M over the cap.

                          Then trade Ross for no returning salary, now we're at 5M under the cap.

                          Then trade CoJo for no returning salary, now we're at 12M under the cap.

                          Then dump both 2017 first round picks for no returning salary, now we're at 13.5M under the cap.

                          Then trade Siakam, Bruno and Nogueira for no returning salary, now we're at 18M under the cap.

                          So, assuming we are keeping the core of KL-DD-DC-JV, we would need to lose Patterson, Ross, Joseph, both 2017 picks, Siakam, Bruno and Nogueira. Maybe a couple less assets if Sully settles for less than Biz got even though the cap will be higher. And that assumes the latest projection of a 102M cap - if the CBA negotiations take out the artificial second jump (and you can bet the owners will push for that), we'll have even less cap room.
                          If he plays up to his potential he is worth it. At some point Masai has to make a decision between Cojo and Wright. I think he goes with the cheaper option. Ross some how already survived this off season don't see him doing it next year. 2pat is nice but he is a career back up. The name we need to keep an eye on is Carroll. He needs to have a big year for us or he might be gone next summer as well. We drafted Bruno to be our started at some point. Lots of options.
                          @Chr1st1anL

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                          • Hotshot wrote: View Post
                            A) It didn't happen with Biz so how could it happen with Sully?!

                            B) Ever think that come summer 2017 the Raptors might go for even a bigger fish?! Milsap , Gallinari , Blake Griffin, Ibaka.
                            Biz can't play the 4. if we can't afford Sully how are going to afford those guys?
                            @Chr1st1anL

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                            • Chr1s1anL wrote: View Post
                              If he plays up to his potential he is worth it. At some point Masai has to make a decision between Cojo and Wright. I think he goes with the cheaper option. Ross some how already survived this off season don't see him doing it next year. 2pat is nice but he is a career back up. The name we need to keep an eye on is Carroll. He needs to have a big year for us or he might be gone next summer as well. We drafted Bruno to be our started at some point. Lots of options.
                              I could see Ross and 2pat gone by next year as well as Carroll. I don't believe Masai can make a decision yet on Cojo and Wright based on finance alone since Wright has not done anything yet and Kyle Lowry is also a free agent.

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                              • Chr1s1anL wrote: View Post
                                Biz can't play the 4. if we can't afford Sully how are going to afford those guys?
                                Sully is more of a 5 then a four.

                                The other guys might agree to sign and trade, or maybe we wont depends how our rooks will do.

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