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Thread: S&T - Bosh/Jack/*Belinelli for Bynum/Vujacic/*Draft Pick (1st/2011)

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    Default S&T - Bosh/Jack/*Belinelli for Bynum/Vujacic/*Draft Pick (1st/2011)

    I think the Lakers would agree to this trade:

    BOSH /JACK / *MAYBE INCLUDE BELINELLI
    for
    BYNUM / VUJACIC / *MAYBE INCLUDE FIRST ROUND PICK (2011)

    For Toronto:
    -Replace the loss of a great big with a good big
    -We must trade Jack or Calderon (Lakers obviously insist on Jack - cheaper, better than Calderon)
    -Trading Jack makes Calderon the starting PG, and allows Hedo to become the 6th man/back-up PG
    -Vujacic is an expiring contract.
    -*Trading Beli eliminates the glut at SG with the addition of Vujacic.
    -*Lakers pick becomes a trading chip

    For Lakers:
    -They trade a good big for a great big
    -PG Jack takes SG Vujacic's roster post (both are $5M/per), which saves them money since both their PG's (Farmar and Fisher) are free agents this summer.
    -*Beli would replace Vujacic's role; Beli's contract is cheaper than Vujacic's and is also expiring.
    -*Beli would be compensation for trading their low value draft pick


    Thoughts?
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    Honestly I don't see the interest in Bynum. Achilles, knee and ankle problems, his legs are as bad as Bosh's. Also, I really don't want to give up on Jack, and I can see belinelli flourishing under a coach who can teach him to embrace his limitations. Also, with Bosh and Jack, Lakers win 3 titles in a row, and I dont want the Lakers to win (but i'm just selfish in that way )

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    then we have similar problems like last year...... we have no depth on PG when Calderon / Jack (which ever is traded) is injured.. that's why we sign Jack in the first place......

    Don't say... Marcus Banks can be second pg... he is not a caliber backup...

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    .....Marcus Banks can be second pg.

    And before you question my IQ or my sanity, I am joking

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    i think the raps get burned on this deal. I know the raps won't get equal value back for bosh, but i think they could get a bit more coming back.

    bynum has been injured a lot more than bosh and as mentioned, belinelli's contract is better than vujacic. so i would want the lakers to take calderon instead of jack and provide us with some long-term salary relief.

    i think the bynum deal is the best one out there, but he is a risk and dealing jack is too great of a price for bynum.

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    Quote KakashiPrince wrote: View Post
    then we have similar problems like last year...... we have no depth on PG when Calderon / Jack (which ever is traded) is injured.. that's why we sign Jack in the first place......

    Don't say... Marcus Banks can be second pg... he is not a caliber backup...
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    As I noted in my OP, I think Hedo would be more effecgtive coming off the bench as our 6th man and play the Point-Forward (back-up PG) position he's most comfortable with (and complained about not playing it last year).

    Marcus Banks would continue his role as our third-string PG.

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    Why throw in Jack and Belinelli? The Lakers would probably do a Bosh for Bynum deal, which would be much, much better for the Raptors.

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    I wouldn't trade Jack unless in another deal a starting point guard is coming back. Jose's a great back up and and a bad starter, I don't see why people don't just accept that and stop turning an asset into a liability.

    The Bynum is a huge risk, I'd be down for it. If Bynum is starting then you start Turk as well, someone is going to have to get him the ball.

    No Sasha, i'd rather see Morrison.

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    Quote TIm W. wrote: View Post
    Why throw in Jack and Belinelli? The Lakers would probably do a Bosh for Bynum deal, which would be much, much better for the Raptors.
    We need to trade Jack or Jose, and no one is going to take Jose off our hands. So if we have to trade a PG, and Jack is the deal breaker in making a Bosh/Bynum S&T, I'd do it.

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    Just because Raptors wants to trade Jack or Jose, I don't see a reason to send the better contract at PG (Jack) to Lakers along with CB4. CB4 has better value than Bynum, why Raptors has to give up Jack? I would understand if Raptors have to give up Jack on a trade that involves Hedo which value took a hit recently, but not Bosh.
    Wouldn't be easier, CB4/Belli for Bynum/Lakers first pick?

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    Quote insight_tor wrote: View Post
    Just because Raptors wants to trade Jack or Jose, I don't see a reason to send the better contract at PG (Jack) to Lakers along with CB4. CB4 has better value than Bynum, why Raptors has to give up Jack? I would understand if Raptors have to give up Jack on a trade that involves Hedo which value took a hit recently, but not Bosh.
    Wouldn't be easier, CB4/Belli for Bynum/Lakers first pick?
    Agreed. Jack and Calderon aren't worthless. if you need to trade one (and I don't think you NEED to), and can't trade Calderon, then you trade Jack. But he is a hell of a lot more valuable than be a simple throw in for a trade.

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