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    Default They just don't care. I really almost can't watch anymore.

    No body cares on the floor.
    Everyones just shooting bricks and they don't care.
    Apparently everyone thinks they're Larry %$@#&% Bird with these shots they are taking.
    Losing is fine, but at least LOOK like you're trying. No one even LOOKS like they're trying.
    Except Ed. God Bless you Ed Davis. You're all we have left.

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    The problem is AB. He is the engine of this team and he is not good on defense. He is creating a toxic environment and hence no one cares anymore. You trade him and this team will be on the right path. Blah Blah Blah ....



    Here it is. No Accountability. It starts from the GM, passed on to the Coach and runs down every single of them.

    This not even a Team anymore. It is bunch of rich dudes playing street ball and going on Plane rides from City to City.

    Thank you Mr.Colangelo

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    Last time they lost 12 straight was 2002-2003. That year they were 24-58. We got the 4th pick which was of course Bosh. At this rate I think it will be a long time before we get 11 more wins , if we even get that many. It looks most likely that Cleveland will get the 1st pick again and the Raptors can very well get a pick around 3-5. They are playing for a pick now.

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    Quote joey_hesketh wrote: View Post
    No body cares on the floor.
    Everyones just shooting bricks and they don't care.
    Apparently everyone thinks they're Larry %$@#&% Bird with these shots they are taking.
    Losing is fine, but at least LOOK like you're trying. No one even LOOKS like they're trying.
    Except Ed. God Bless you Ed Davis. You're all we have left.
    i know what you mean even i can't watch them play anymore either.... o yaa God Bless you Ed Davis you actually look like you want to play unlike everyone else.

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    The problem is AB. He is the engine of this team and he is not good on defense. He is creating a toxic environment and hence no one cares anymore. You trade him and this team will be on the right path. Blah Blah Blah ....



    Here it is. No Accountability. It starts from the GM, passed on to the Coach and runs down every single of them.

    This not even a Team anymore. It is bunch of rich dudes playing street ball and going on Plane rides from City to City.

    Thank you Mr.Colangelo
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    Quote Rg1990 wrote: View Post
    Last time they lost 12 straight was 2002-2003. That year they were 24-58. We got the 4th pick which was of course Bosh. At this rate I think it will be a long time before we get 11 more wins , if we even get that many. It looks most likely that Cleveland will get the 1st pick again and the Raptors can very well get a pick around 3-5. They are playing for a pick now.
    Funny if we end up with 4th pick and cleveland get the 1st, deja vu for both franchises.

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    Default Poor play

    Guess the best way to register fan dissatisfaction is to stay away from ACC. When it starts hurting MLSE, only then will they start putting in monies to put together a serious team...

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    Yup, by my count they were 13 of 44 on shots of longer than 15 feet (1 of 6 from deep); they were 25 of 50 in closer than that, plus 12 more points from shooting fouls from getting into the paint. No idea why everyone wants to be a jump-shooter, when this lineup, as it stands now is brutal at that part of the game. Call it laziness, call it timidity, call it lack of mental focus, whatever. The only way this roster is going to end this streak is if they go inside. If Ed's success wasn't enough of a demonstration, I don't know what will convince them.

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    If it is of any consolation I keep my sanity by watching individuals like Davis, Amir, Bayless and DD play the game. Mostly these guys are always in the game and play with heart. DD was not so good tonite but he tries to compensate in areas other than offense. ED saved the team from embarassment..it would have been a blowout by halftime if not for him in qtr 2. BC better make a move of some kind just to keep these guys going. I think AB has hit the wall being option 1 for the first time alongwith all of his defensive liabilities.

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    Derozan played a nice defensive game (3 steals, 2 blocks and he had alot of deflections and help - defense plays that are not recorded)

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    On the Celtics, Bargnani would be a perinneal all-star. He needs an Oakley sized foot up his ass. I do not know how intelligent he is, but I think he may just be as "duh" as a defender can get. He may really just not know.

    I am finally okay with trading him for a chance at someone with a slightly more rounded game, though I do think he is a pretty talented player - our most talented, probably.
    When they had a rumour about the Warriors putting Curry on the block and someone suggested a Bargnani for Curry deal could happen, I had a delusional dream face going on. The problem is that no one is buying this year with the CBA/strike coming up. . If you want to lose someone, you have to buy them out, and that would make no sense with anyone on the roster.

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    Quote Raptor4Ever wrote: View Post
    This not even a Team anymore. It is bunch of rich dudes playing street ball and going on Plane rides from City to City.

    Thank you Mr.Colangelo
    That was true even before Mr Colangelo trundled across the border.

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    Quote Raptor4Ever wrote: View Post
    The problem is AB. He is the engine of this team and he is not good on defense. He is creating a toxic environment and hence no one cares anymore. You trade him and this team will be on the right path. Blah Blah Blah ....



    Here it is. No Accountability. It starts from the GM, passed on to the Coach and runs down every single of them.

    This not even a Team anymore. It is bunch of rich dudes playing street ball and going on Plane rides from City to City.

    Thank you Mr.Colangelo
    So you don't believe that Bargnani is at all at fault for his lack of defense or rebounding?

    If they fire Colangelo and Triano, will that make Bargnani a better defender and rebounder?

    Why does Bargnani need to be held accountable for things that guys like Amir Johnson and Ed Davis do DESPITE the toxic environment that these guys have apparently created? Shouldn't you keep guys like that, and get rid of guys who aren't self motivated?
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    Quote Tim W. wrote: View Post
    So you don't believe that Bargnani is at all at fault for his lack of defense or rebounding?

    If they fire Colangelo and Triano, will that make Bargnani a better defender and rebounder?

    Why does Bargnani need to be held accountable for things that guys like Amir Johnson and Ed Davis do DESPITE the toxic environment that these guys have apparently created? Shouldn't you keep guys like that, and get rid of guys who aren't self motivated?
    I address your questons in another thread and there is no reason to repeat myself.
    It is very simple. The problem is you just DO NOT GET it or pretend to not get it which is fine as I think everyone who has read few of your posts here know what you are all about.

    Best of Luck

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    Quote EaseMyPain wrote: View Post
    On the Celtics, Bargnani would be a perinneal all-star. He needs an Oakley sized foot up his ass. I do not know how intelligent he is, but I think he may just be as "duh" as a defender can get. He may really just not know.
    On the Celtics, he'd probably be riding the pine because they demand their bigs to play defense. Why does everyone think that trading Bargnani to a contender will suddenly make him a contender? How many shots do you think he'd get on that team? Well, Paul Pierce takes a team high 13 a game. Bargnani right now takes 18, and scores just 2 more points a game. You think Bargnani is going to take more shots than Paul Pierce? Doubtful. Ray Allen takes 12 shots per game. Let's say Bargnani takes that many.

    Right now Bargnani gets 1.18 points for every shot he takes. This is pretty much what he does for his career, so this number is normal for him. If Bargnani takes 12 shots per game, which is the most I can see him taking (assuming he would play regular minutes, which is doubtful), he'd score 14 ppg.

    I fail to see how a 7 footer who scores 14 ppg while being a below average rebounder and defender (which is would be no matter who his teammates are, his coach is or what team he plays for) would ever make the All-Star team, let alone be a perennial All-Star.
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    I address your questons in another thread and there is no reason to repeat myself.
    It is very simple. The problem is you just DO NOT GET it or pretend to not get it which is fine as I think everyone who has read few of your posts here know what you are all about.

    Best of Luck
    No, you didn't answer my questions, or if I did, I obviously missed it. I'm guessing I'm not the only person who would LOVE to know the answers to those questions, so please tell us.
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    Quote Raptor4Ever wrote: View Post
    I address your questons in another thread and there is no reason to repeat myself.
    It is very simple. The problem is you just DO NOT GET it or pretend to not get it which is fine as I think everyone who has read few of your posts here know what you are all about.

    Best of Luck
    Just to add, I looked back and no, you didn't answer my questions. You just did what you always do, try and turn the conversation into something else to try and avoid answering the question. And then you stopped replying when I pressed you.

    So please, answer the questions. Or at least the main one. Does Bargnani bear no responsibility for playing defense and rebounding?

    I'm waiting.
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    Ya'll need to chill... The problem with this team is that they do not have the defensive mentaliy that makes team greats (ie...Celtics). BC is a pretty smart guy but his greatest weakness is that he is a believer of the run and gun offense which again NEVER wins championships.

    Steps needed to turn this team around:

    1) BC...dip run & gun and start pursuing "defense comes first"
    2) Fire Jay because he does not have that authority over players like other great coaches...and he's not a great defensive coach.
    Again this is the root of all problems...once you deal with them 2 then you can put a great team around.

    I am hoping for raptors to land either kyrie erving or Perry Jones and start with young players. Do it the OKC way!

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    man, am i glad i decided to watch "The Cape" instead.

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    Quote heinz57 wrote: View Post
    man, am i glad i decided to watch "The Cape" instead.
    hahahaha I heard that was the worst crap on TV...had to have been better than what we were watching. :S

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