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Thread: Insider Gossip: Colangelo Likely to Let Bosh Go

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    Quote Doc Naismith wrote: View Post
    Take it for what its worth, but I just read this via the RealGM where the OP claims to have a legit inside source. I know we've heard of these inside sources before, but if it is true it is certainly interesting.



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    Timely find, Doc! I'm glad you posted this because I was worried we'd have nothing new to talk about this week.

    I'll naively believe this rumour, but it doesn't change my pre-existing opinion of Bosh.

    IMO, Bosh is a super-talented athlete who could make several existing playoff teams much better and eventually into title contenders.

    I also think that Bosh's work ethic and personality will enable him to overcome his rumoured "medical MESS" until he at least turns 30, which won't be until the 5th year of his next contract.

    I don't think the Raps are the right team for him at this stage of his career, and I also don't think it's worth it for the Raps to give him max deal given the personnel on their current roster. However, I do believe that Bosh is worth max money in the present NBA free agent market.

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    Quote Ripp wrote: View Post
    Why was the post deleted? Don't they usually lock posts, rather than deleting them?
    According to the original poster that shared the news, he himself asked the mods to remove the post for fear that it would "out" his source. So, maybe its just me but his "source" doesn't seem that obvious.

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    BTW, this sorta doesn't make sense. If you have knee problems, the right thing to do is to lose weight, not gain it. Additional weight makes things worse, not better..
    Adding all the upper body muscle isnt gonna help the knees?? So Im not sure if this makes any sense, he would need to strengthen the muscles around his knees, but we all saw him doing squats and running sprints in his video, not really knee saving movements?

    Either way, a less mobile CB4 is relatively useless, he doesnt have the savvy of JO or Mcdyess to work-around any potential knee problems, his strength was his quickness and it thats gone, so is his game.

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    sell/trade bosh to a team that is willing to overextend to get back as much as possible
    he will be a cripple at 30 in nba terms his knees are already a huge issue the last few years

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    Regarding and earlier post, he changed his location from Toronto to everywhere, and his website is also "under maintenance"
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    Quote East Coast wrote: View Post
    Regarding and earlier post, he changed his location from Toronto to everywhere, and his website is also "under maintenance"
    Well if Raptors fans weren't paranoid enough by now, they'll likely read into this and jump to more conclusions regarding Bosh.

    Oh well, its a nice way to kill time during a normally slow and boring off-season.

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    Wow, is CB4 the next T-MAC?
    Bosh has gotten a bit better every year since his rookie season, but I personally don't think he has much more improvement left in him, and I think if we've seen the best Chris Bosh..that there's no reason to invest the next 5 -6 years of the franchise in him.

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    this is probably just a whole bunch of BS. So does this mean that other players with thin frames such as durant will encounter the same problems...I'm just not buying this

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    Not to add fuel to the fire, but it reminds me a little of Shareef Abdur-Rahim. He had a similar body as Bosh, and the injury bug hit him after his eighth year. Three years later he was done due to knee problems. The strange thing was that Shareef missed very few games during his first 8 seasons (only 1 season did he miss more than 2 games). But all that eventually caught up with him.

    I am suspicious of the original post, though, and him asking for it to be deleted does nothing to change that. He knew it would just add fuel to the fire. The best way to spread a rumour is to start it and then try to cover it up.

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    I love CB, he is my favorite player in the league, but that post scared the hell out of me. As did the rapid deletion and following coverup by the RealGM Raptors staff.

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    Quote Ripp wrote: View Post
    I love CB, he is my favorite player in the league, but that post scared the hell out of me. As did the rapid deletion and following coverup by the RealGM Raptors staff.
    I love CB too. Hi Ripp, thanks for mentioning this place in that thread, I came here to check it out.

    One thing I want to make clear, because this is important: It was the Raptors who told CB right after the Memphis game that they wouldn't be offering him a max contract. CB was on the fence on whether to stay or go, but after that conversation they both agreed to get max value for him somewhere else.

    It was just made clear to him that he wouldn't get max money here. And the threads related to this topic are being deleted off of RealGM because some Admins there on the Raps board have connections with Raptors staff and don't want to do anything to hurt the org. No one in private conversations has called what I said untrue though.

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    Quote Acer wrote: View Post
    I love CB too. Hi Ripp, thanks for mentioning this place in that thread, I came here to check it out.

    One thing I want to make clear, because this is important: It was the Raptors who told CB right after the Memphis game that they wouldn't be offering him a max contract. CB was on the fence on whether to stay or go, but after that conversation they both agreed to get max value for him somewhere else.

    It was just made clear to him that he wouldn't get max money here. And the threads related to this topic are being deleted off of RealGM because some Admins there on the Raps board have connections with Raptors staff and don't want to do anything to hurt the org. No one in private conversations has called what I said untrue though.
    Appreciated the scoop last night Acer. It would appear as though I caught it just in the nick of time.

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    Acer: Can you shed some more insight into this source? Is it some sort of medical guy? I still have no clue how they plan on passing medical examinations on July 1st.
    Also, the "adding muscle" part didn't make any sense. If you have knee issues, the wisest thing to do is to reduce your body mass, not increase it. What sort of issue is it with CB? Ligament? ACL/MCL? The weak bones stuff you said sorta doesn't make sense...can you elaborate?

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    Also, why would they share this information publicly, e.g., to you? This seems a tremendously poor idea, no?

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    I still do not understand then why Bryan did not trade him before the deadline, or even the 2007, 2008, or 2009 offseasons. You'd think the logical thing to do is to get what you can, asap, rather than waiting until the summer, when Colangelo will basically get nothing.

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    Back to the Twitter acct, it seems he also took off his Bio on Twitter which before stated Toronto Raptors captain, all-star, etc....
    I think the writings all over the wall at this point, its just a matter of who we can get back.

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    Quote RikkJames wrote: View Post
    Back to the Twitter acct, it seems he also took off his Bio on Twitter which before stated Toronto Raptors captain, all-star, etc....
    I think the writings all over the wall at this point, its just a matter of who we can get back.
    Or he and his side kick Hadi are intentionally doing this in order to toy with Raptors fans emotions. I wouldn't put it past Hadi to do such a thing.

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    - adding muscle to his thighs, calfs, lower body so he relies less on his joints for his explosiveness + reduce wear and tear.

    - I'm not a medical guy, but it's years of pent up pressure on his knees from having to support such a tall frame with next to no lower body muscle strength. That is why the Sheriff comparison is spot on - the parallels are actually eerie.

    - The man has had no surgeries on his knees yet wears one of the biggest knee braces on the league; has had a variety of myserious lower body injuries during his career culminating in that ridiculous lie about the Memphis game that single-handedly fucked the Raptors season for a variety of reasons:

    Guy goes down, team thinks he'll be back in a game or two because an ankle sprain isn't bad...yet he's gone for weeks, team is mentally unprepared for him gone that long (they played well at first), guys start taking dumb shots, friction develops. BC tells Chris he ain't coming back next year, Chris mentally checks out, season is fubar.

    - It is someone who would have access to CB on a fairly regular basis. That place (MLSE) is a gossip mill; the only other rumour this person told me had to do with an issue that he wouldn't be directly working on (communications) which is why Chuck Swirsky got fired; I can't see how he or she would know about that since he or she doesn't do comm work for MLSE, but he or she does directly deal with CB on a day-to-day basis for medicalish issues.

    MLSE flat out told Chris that he has two years of explosiveness left in his lower joints at his current pace and three if he gets managed properly with minutes and stuff. They tried to convince him to take another 3 year deal but he declined quickly because he is insisting on getting max money. I think the plan is for him to do no workouts of any kind until the physicals in July so his knee will look better than it is.

    Come September or October Chris will look fine; but one seemingly innnocent looking play could ruin both his knees (both vulnerable) and for sure he'll grind down as per usual come March. Our franchise can't pay max money for 5 months of work.

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    Is he just not capable of adding enough muscle mass? Fricking terrible, man. Surely with a hard offseason of weights, squatting and deadlifts, he could get to where he needs to be. God damn, life sucks.

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    Quote Ripp wrote: View Post
    Is he just not capable of adding enough muscle mass? .
    That is an option; but with knees you really can't undue wear and tear. Adding muscle mass will mean the wear and tear will decelerate. Everyone that they had turned the corner with Chris knees until that Memphis game drove home how fragile it was.

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