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    Default GM: LBJ & Bosh in Chicago Very Possible (ESPN)

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    This according to Chad Ford:

    One GM went a bit further in a phone call a few minutes later. "I think the Bulls are really going to go for it. Look for them to offer the Cavs Luol Deng in a sign-and-trade for LeBron. That will allow them to retain most of their cap space. Then they'll go after Dwyane Wade or Chris Bosh as well."
    If this happens, the Raps and 25 other teams might as well forget about winning a title for the next 7 years.

    Boston really f**ked things up last night! F**king C**tics!!
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    Just as long as nobody ends up going to the Knicks, I won't be too crushed. A Knicks fan with something to cheer about is about as pleasant as fingernails on a chalkboard.

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    Bosh will stay with the Raptors.

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    I can't wait until July 1 and this is all over we'll either be re building or contending . But i don't want specualte anymore and all on what one player does .
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    Nervous times for a lot of teams. I can't see the NBA allowing mega-teams. It's just bad for business. We all know the impact it will have on fan bases in Cleveland and Toronto if Lebron and Chris respectively leave. The NBA knows it too, so I think STern and co. will try to guide the megastars back to their respective clubs.

    But damn, if the Bulls land Lebron and Chris to go along with Noah and Rose, it would be pointless to play the games. Teams will mentally check out before games. They could easily challenge the 96 Bulls regular season record of 72 wins..and would probably coast to the finals every year.
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    I have many problems with this. The biggest one that stands out in my mind is the Lakers can offer more than Chicago and they would be a more desireable location. He could play next to Kobe and pretty much be guaranteed to win rings in an excellent, PROVEN system. What have the Bulls done since they lost Jordan? Nothing. They have showed no staying power where as the Lakers are always in competition for a Championship or making plays to compete for one shortly.
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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    I have many problems with this. The biggest one that stands out in my mind is the Lakers can offer more than Chicago and they would be a more desireable location. He could play next to Kobe and pretty much be guaranteed to win rings in an excellent, PROVEN system. What have the Bulls done since they lost Jordan? Nothing. They have showed no staying power where as the Lakers are always in competition for a Championship or making plays to compete for one shortly.
    It's funny. I thought about the same thing this morning. The Lakers could essentially offer the Cavs the same package they were rumoured to have been offering the Raptors for Bosh and instead have Kobe, Gasol, Artest and Lebron as part of the starting 5.
    I think the main thing though is that could Lebron share the spotlight with Kobe?

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    Quote MangoKid wrote: View Post
    Nervous times for a lot of teams. I can't see the NBA allowing mega-teams. It's just bad for business. We all know the impact it will have on fan bases in Cleveland and Toronto if Lebron and Chris respectively leave. The NBA knows it too, so I think STern and co. will try to guide the megastars back to their respective clubs.

    But damn, if the Bulls land Lebron and Chris to go along with Noah and Rose, it would be pointless to play the games. Teams will mentally check out before games. They could easily challenge the 96 Bulls regular season record of 72 wins..and would probably coast to the finals every year.
    There's already Mega teams i mean the Spurs were one for most of the 00's and the Lakers have right now, but this one would be insane because they are all in their early 20's and would probably win in the regular season but you never know in post season. I hope it doesn't happen, to have a "yankees" of basketball would bring the NBA down IMO for fans outside of Chicago.
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    Quote rdiaz101 wrote: View Post
    There's already Mega teams i mean the Spurs were one for most of the 00's and the Lakers have right now, but this one would be insane because they are all in their early 20's and would probably win in the regular season but you never know in post season. I hope it doesn't happen, to have a "yankees" of basketball would bring the NBA down IMO for fans outside of Chicago.
    The Spurs situation was different. The stars on their team were drafted and homegrown. It wasn't a situation where a whole fan base went down the tubes because of it. The Lakers situation is a bit different as well. We're talking about signing mega-stars in their prime - much to what you pointed out, what the yankees do.

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    Quote MangoKid wrote: View Post
    It's funny. I thought about the same thing this morning. The Lakers could essentially offer the Cavs the same package they were rumoured to have been offering the Raptors for Bosh and instead have Kobe, Gasol, Artest and Lebron as part of the starting 5.
    I think the main thing though is that could Lebron share the spotlight with Kobe?
    Kobe is in the twilight of his career. His body is already regressing a little, hence the suggestions that he play less minutes moving forward. You can't look at age as expiry date for Kobe. He's been in the league since he was 18 and has logged as many or more playoff minutes than anyone in the league since then. Kobe now cares about winnning rings because he has all the inidividual accolades and all that's left is to beat the top dogs in championships, top dogs like MJ. LeBron would secure that even when Kobe can't carry a club anymore he can still play second fiddle and keep on winning rings. L.A. is big enough for both these guys. I fail to see how LeBron's star is going to dim in L.A., if anything he gets more popular if that's possible. LeBron's game would fit with Kobe like a glove. LeBron is selfless on the court while realizing his own abilities to score and taking advantage of them when possible. Kobe and LeBron would fit perfect together.

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    A team with Lebron and Bosh wouldn't beat the Celtics, let alone the Magic. Chicago should target Lebron and another winner-type player, like say Wade, Amar'e.
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    What has Amare won? Bosh never had the luxury of playing next to one of the greatest PGs off all-time. The main difference between Bosh and Amare, besides Bosh's superior skills, is the fact that Bosh lacks Steve Nash. That's not exactly something he can take to the gym in the off-season and work on... Damn Bosh for lacking Nash. I don't remember seeing a lack of Nash on his scouting report when they drafted him... Someone dropped that ball because Wade went at five and he had a special ability better than Nash, he was oozing with Shaq.
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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    Kobe is in the twilight of his career. His body is already regressing a little, hence the suggestions that he play less minutes moving forward. You can't look at age as expiry date for Kobe. He's been in the league since he was 18 and has logged as many or more playoff minutes than anyone in the league since then. Kobe now cares about winnning rings because he has all the inidividual accolades and all that's left is to beat the top dogs in championships, top dogs like MJ. LeBron would secure that even when Kobe can't carry a club anymore he can still play second fiddle and keep on winning rings. L.A. is big enough for both these guys. I fail to see how LeBron's star is going to dim in L.A., if anything he gets more popular if that's possible. LeBron's game would fit with Kobe like a glove. LeBron is selfless on the court while realizing his own abilities to score and taking advantage of them when possible. Kobe and LeBron would fit perfect together.
    It's well documented that they fit together. They played on team USA together, so that's not the issue. No matter how you slice it, it's still Kobe's team if Lebron goes there. It's like when Alex Rodriguez went to the Yankees. Even with A-Rod on the team, it's still still considered Derek Jeter's team. I think there's a sense that Lebron wants to be the face of a team/franchise. Lebron's star will still shine, just not as much as Kobe's. And Kobe can still play for another 4-5 years at an MVP-type level.

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    Mango, this isn't a soap opera. Did anyone discredit what Kobe did when Shaq was there? I don't remember it if they did, he got all the accolades you could dream and rings. Kobe doesn't even have much time left in the league. As soon as he starts to regress who's team is it then? Look at it this way, when TD entered San Antonio it was the Admiral's team but when the Admiral started to regress it turned into Duncan's team. I think you're making a big thing out of nothing. We're not talking about kids fighting over a toy here. There is lots of spotlight to go around in L.A. and no one is going to suddenly start discrediting James if he goes to L.A., if anything he will get more praise because he'll have some hardware and be part of the Lakers lore.

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    When people think back to '99 they don't think "Robinson's team" or "Duncan's team". They think:

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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    Mango, this isn't a soap opera. Did anyone discredit what Kobe did when Shaq was there? I don't remember it if they did, he got all the accolades you could dream and rings. Kobe doesn't even have much time left in the league. As soon as he starts to regress who's team is it then? Look at it this way, when TD entered San Antonio it was the Admiral's team but when the Admiral started to regress it turned into Duncan's team. I think you're making a big thing out of nothing. We're not talking about kids fighting over a toy here. There is lots of spotlight to go around in L.A. and no one is going to suddenly start discrediting James if he goes to L.A., if anything he will get more praise because he'll have some hardware and be part of the Lakers lore.
    I don't know why you dismiss it as such or downplay the notion. Basketball players have egos. Big egos. You brought up the perfect situation of Kobe and Shaq. Everything was peachy-keen at first, but as time went on, those two couldn't co-exist, hence Shaq was dealt to the Heat. Los Angeles is a big city, and it could work in sharing the spotlight - if Lebron was on the Clippers. But there's no way Stern would have the league's two biggest stars on the same team.

    In the end, it's quite a thought to have LBJ and Kobe on the same team, but they couldn't play on the same team for an extended period of time.

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    Quote MangoKid wrote: View Post
    I don't know why you dismiss it as such or downplay the notion. Basketball players have egos. Big egos. You brought up the perfect situation of Kobe and Shaq. Everything was peachy-keen at first, but as time went on, those two couldn't co-exist, hence Shaq was dealt to the Heat. Los Angeles is a big city, and it could work in sharing the spotlight - if Lebron was on the Clippers. But there's no way Stern would have the league's two biggest stars on the same team.

    In the end, it's quite a thought to have LBJ and Kobe on the same team, but they couldn't play on the same team for an extended period of time.
    It did work. It worked for a long time and they won many championships before they decided to part ways. It worked for a longer time than Kobe has left in the league.

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    It did work. It worked for a long time and they won many championships before they decided to part ways. It worked for a longer time than Kobe has left in the league.
    But in the end, it was egos that drove them apart. And that's the reason why I can't see Lebron and Kobe on the same team (other than all-star games and olympics). Hell, look at the All-Star post-game festivities from this year and how much he sulked when he didn't win MVP honours. It's a wonderful thought for Laker fans but it probably won't happen.

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    If Lebron goes to Los Angeles it will be with the Clippers.

    Add Lebron and you have

    Griffin
    Kaman
    Lebron
    E. Gordon
    B. Davis

    Now if the Clippers get the #1 pick add in J. Wall to replace BD in a couple of years. All the other guys are still young

    The Clippers got the money
    The Clippers need to get a top coach which is possible
    Lebron would love to one up Kobe in Los Angeles and take away his Los Angeles crown.

    If Lebron goes to Los Angeles it will be with the Clippers 4sure. You can put it in bank.
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    The big difference between Chicago and the Lakers is that Chicago doesn't actually have to trade anyone to get LeBron. They have enough cap room to sign him outright. Or if they do a sign and trade, the salaries don't have to match. Chicago could trade James Johnson and a couple of first round picks, and then Cleveland would get a big trade exception. With the Lakers, they would have to take back similar salary, which could put them over the luxury tax. If you were Cleveland, would you want to pay luxury tax AFTER LeBron leaves?

    As for the Clippers, I don't see it being high on anyone's list. Sterling is the most hated owner in the NBA ...
    http://deadspin.com/5263277/the-sord...onald-sterling

    And I'm sure pretty much every player in the league has read this article...
    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...4&sportCat=nba

    Until Donald Sterling sells the Clippers, I don't see them doing anything much, no matter who they draft.

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