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    Default Hmmm ... Bosh as a Bull?

    Not sure if this is Chad Ford just stirring the pot, or if he has some actual insider news that we don't know about.

    That would be an interesting squad and a formidable front court of Chris and Joakim. Much better compliment to Bosh's game than Bargnani is if I do say so myself.

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    Why woul Bosh leave Toronto? nice nucleus, and a great city. unless he can play with lebron or wade, why would he leave?

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    Great city. Not sure about the nucleus. May have a chance to play with Bron or Wade. If not, may have the chance to play with Derrick Rose.
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    Bosh has been billed as the Bulls top target in free agency for most the last 18 months (except for the Wade-mania bits in between).

    Bosh is seen as the elite big man that the squad needs to round out their lineup ... which he is.

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    They will have the cap space to make a run but their post Jordan track record is far worse than the Raptors track record over that time. The Bulls can't offer him that final (roughly) $27M year that the Raptors can and a move to Chicago takes him out of his comfort zone and into a new system under a management team who can't seem to get it right...I don't know, if I'm Chris Bosh, what does Chicago have that beats out $27M extra?

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    They will have the cap space to make a run but their post Jordan track record is far worse than the Raptors track record over that time. The Bulls can't offer him that final (roughly) $27M year that the Raptors can and a move to Chicago takes him out of his comfort zone and into a new system under a management team who can't seem to get it right...I don't know, if I'm Chris Bosh, what does Chicago have that beats out $27M extra?
    Do you honestly believe that a familiar "system" will have any sort of impact on his decision? I don't, systems come and go and unless you're somebody like Amare who's tailor-made to play with Nash, I don't think it matters much.

    Bosh's game is very system independent, every team in the league wants 20/10 and he can deliver that anywhere, regardless of touches.

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    Miami and Chicago look like the two biggest threats to steal Bosh away.

    The Thunder (financial), Nets (talent) and Knicks (talent) could possibly get involved too but I think they have some ground to make up with the other teams.

    I still think the Raptors are the frontrunner to sign Bosh.

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    I'm just saying, he's in his comfort zone in Toronto. When I say "system" there's a lot more to it than just the X's and O's. Chicago cannot offer him a better chance at a title. They also can't offer him those $27 or so million dollars in that final year.

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    Chicago cannot offer him a better chance at a title.
    Why do you think that the Bulls can't offer him a better shot at a title?

    Derrick Rose. Joakim Noah. Luol Deng. Plus one of Kirk Hinrich/John Salmons.

    Add Bosh to that mix and I think the Bulls are a 55+ win team straight away.

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    It would be so devastating for Bosh to leave - I hope for the Raps and their fans he doesn't.

    He reminds me so much of a young CWebb.

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    Why do you think that the Bulls can't offer him a better shot at a title?

    Derrick Rose. Joakim Noah. Luol Deng. Plus one of Kirk Hinrich/John Salmons.

    Add Bosh to that mix and I think the Bulls are a 55+ win team straight away.
    I think they're overrated. Even if they could win 55 games is that enough to bail on $27M? Not a chance.

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    It would be so devastating for Bosh to leave - I hope for the Raps and their fans he doesn't.

    He reminds me so much of a young CWebb.
    I was on the fence up until this season regarding Bosh. Have always loved him as a player, but was starting to become skeptical towards the end of last season. Then he beefed up and changed his style altogether to the player Raptors fans have been begged him to be for years now. More of a low post presence and getting to the line often. Settling less with those mid range jumpers which I'm happy to see.

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    I was on the fence up until this season regarding Bosh. Have always loved him as a player, but was starting to become skeptical towards the end of last season. Then he beefed up and changed his style altogether to the player Raptors fans have been begged him to be for years now. More of a low post presence and getting to the line often. Settling less with those mid range jumpers which I'm happy to see.
    I've always had a thing for Bosh...most likely my favorite player outside of the Kings.

    I do see where the question marks arise with him...especially in the past...but he's still a really special player.

    I'd give anything for him. *sigh*

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    I think Bosh is an excellent player but I hope he leaves if this team barely makes the playoffs and then fails to advance past the first round - a likely result given the season so far. Bosh staying with a middle of the road Raptors team means management will be satisfied because fans will have a reason to keep buying tickets. Bosh leaving because the team is mediocre at least has a chance of truly stirring things up to the point that either Colangelo gets his act together (I used to be a fan of his, now I'm not) or management finds a new (hopefully better) GM.

    Of course, even if Bosh goes, I'm not sure Colangelo has anything to worry about. And I'm not sure MLSE has the ability to find a better GM. Lord knows there are worse than BC out there.

    I think I'm beginning to hate being a Raptors fan.

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    Bosh isn't leaving money on the table just to change teams.

    So many people pretend players don't care about $30 million in guaranteed money. What imaginations - it has never, ever happened!

    Bosh may change teams by trade or S&T - Chicago has assets that could make this happen, but Chicago will have to give value back or it won't happen. They don't get to keep all those great young assets if they want Bosh - they'll have to give something of real value.
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    Yeah, its like "average Joe" on the street passing on $100,000 in guaranteed money to do a job for one year.

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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    Yeah, its like "average Joe" on the street passing on $100,000 in guaranteed money to do a job for one year.
    POB is making 6 time more...

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    And he no doubt could grab six times as many boards a game as this average Joe!... Wait, what's six times zero?

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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    And he no doubt could grab six times as many boards a game as this average Joe!... Wait, what's six times zero?
    now now......dont hate him cuz you aint him....

    but on a side note....i was really hoping that POB would prove everyone wrong...kinda like how Beli turned things around this season....POB was in the same situation like beli in GS....

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    I think Bosh is an excellent player but I hope he leaves if this team barely makes the playoffs and then fails to advance past the first round - a likely result given the season so far. Bosh staying with a middle of the road Raptors team means management will be satisfied because fans will have a reason to keep buying tickets. Bosh leaving because the team is mediocre at least has a chance of truly stirring things up to the point that either Colangelo gets his act together (I used to be a fan of his, now I'm not) or management finds a new (hopefully better) GM.

    Of course, even if Bosh goes, I'm not sure Colangelo has anything to worry about. And I'm not sure MLSE has the ability to find a better GM. Lord knows there are worse than BC out there.

    I think I'm beginning to hate being a Raptors fan.
    You sound like a fan who is opening up to blowing up this team. I felt the same way at last year's trade deadline and was disappointed to see Colangelo apply a quick-fix through the Marion trade. At the time I would've much rather started from scratch. I don't think that's an option anymore considering the contracts we have. We just have to hope that this team finds itself.

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    ...They just blew up the team. Its not an option because they just did it. This team probably isn't going to change much over the next couple of seasons so everyone is going to have to get used to it at some point.

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    A Bosh trade to Chicago is easy to see.
    And it could be good for both teams.
    Chicago has the assets that can replace the stats Bosh contributes and should result in a better scoring Bulls team and a better defending Raptors.

    It's possible. No reason to wait until the summer either!
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