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    Default PTI: Trade Hedo to Washington Right Now for Arenas

    Courtesy of RealGM member henrydunn13 who apparently heard this not to long ago on TSN via PTI and Michael Wilbon.

    no consistency, out of shape, went to the club with the flu

    trade him to washington right now for gilbert arenas
    i love this guy until this year
    he was awful this year
    if you can trade gilbert for brother hedo, you do it

    worst thing is disgruntled former star
    you have to get rid of him
    amazing this soured so quickly
    unbelievably bad pairing
    Hedo for Agent Zero? Dunno know about you guys, but where do I sign?

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    anything to get rid of hedo

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    :O

    IIs Arenas' contract shorter then Hedo's? If so then do it
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    If its shorter than Turk's then do it.

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    If this is on the table and the wiz are willing I think it's safe to say this is a no brainer. Say what u will about arenas but he's a fiery competitor, an his swagger may be just what the franchise needs to get turned around. Plus like I've said before handguns won't even be a temptation in Canada lol.

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    Hedo Turkoglu
    2010/1: $9,800,000, 2011/12: $10,600,000, 2012/13: $11,400,000, 2013/14: $12,200,000

    Gilbert Arenas
    2010/1: $17,730,694, 2011/12: $19,269,308, 2012/13: $20,807,922, 2013/14: $22,346,536

    Keep in mind that if the Raptors replace Bosh's max contract with contracts of equal value for the long term, the team will be capped out for a long time anyway. Because of this Gil's contract size isn't a big deal if he stays healthy. Calderon or a combo of other contract would have to be included for it to work. Calderon makes the most sense for the Raptors. They could get a third team involved if the Wiz don't want Jose... I'd move Hedo and others for Gil. Sign me up. Look beyond the bad joke with the guns and you have a damn talented player.

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    I was watching PTI earlier when I heard them talking about it. I've seen a few of you propose it on here as well when Washington was awarded the #1 pick. Though I didn't think too highly of it at the time, Hedo's assinine comments recently change everything.

    Hedo and Jose for Gilbert, get on your job Bryan!
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    Do you guys think Washington would want Hedo Turkoglu on their team?

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    Quote IceeeD wrote: View Post
    Do you guys think Washington would want Hedo Turkoglu on their team?
    that's not the point, they need to get rid of arenas and i wouldn't wan't to buy out that contract. so, what do you do trade him while taking back a less but still hefty contract.

    you don't want that player on your team then they can buy out hedo easier than thye can arenas and start all over sooner rather than later.
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    Very intriguing. The fear I have though is not the gun thing, it's Agent Zero's knee. That was serious surgery. While he had moments last season where he reminded you of his old self, there were lots of other times where he just didn't look right. That's a huge salary to be paying out if he's sitting on the injury list most of the time.

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    There is absolutely no reason to make this trade from our side. Agent zero's contract will cripple an organization like ours (which is committed not to go into luxuary tax especialy with their only max player is leaving the franchise).

    Unlike some who think Hedo has no market I think he is very marketable; as proposed today Diaw for Hedo thats one proposition. Minisota and New Jersey are literally starved for forwards they will take him in a heart beat. New York Miami and the Clippers are also looking for small and power forwards (Hedo can play both clippers only need SF).

    Why the hurry? Is Gil going anywhere soon! Also assessing the trade based on its roster merits (as opposed to salaries) No one knows how Gil will play; as far as I can remember he was injured for 2 full years before his attempt to make a come back last year which was never meant to be. Is he, can he play at the level that awarded him the contract +3 years ago??

    We have two solid point guards and a third string in Marcus Banks that can hold his own for a good stretch in case either one goes down. Why do we need to look at another PG? aren't we better off trying to trade for a power forward or a centre (should Chris leave and Amir signs somewhere else?).

    We dont need to hurry to make a bad deal, there is always one available if want to.

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    Quote thomas1 wrote: View Post
    There is absolutely no reason to make this trade from our side. Agent zero's contract will cripple an organization like ours (which is committed not to go into luxuary tax especialy with their only max player is leaving the franchise).

    Unlike some who think Hedo has no market I think he is very marketable; as proposed today Diaw for Hedo thats one proposition. Minisota and New Jersey are literally starved for forwards they will take him in a heart beat. New York Miami and the Clippers are also looking for small and power forwards (Hedo can play both clippers only need SF).

    Why the hurry? Is Gil going anywhere soon! Also assessing the trade based on its roster merits (as opposed to salaries) No one knows how Gil will play; as far as I can remember he was injured for 2 full years before his attempt to make a come back last year which was never meant to be. Is he, can he play at the level that awarded him the contract +3 years ago??

    We have two solid point guards and a third string in Marcus Banks that can hold his own for a good stretch in case either one goes down. Why do we need to look at another PG? aren't we better off trying to trade for a power forward or a centre (should Chris leave and Amir signs somewhere else?).

    We dont need to hurry to make a bad deal, there is always one available if want to.
    Agreed Thomas. Believe it or not, Turk does hold value. I'm sure BC can do much better than this. Gilberts a good PG, but his contract is toxic.

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    I love the Hedo for Gilbert possibility. The reason I originally joined RR was because I thought the raps could get Agent 0 for pennies on the dollar. If it was Turk/Jose for Gilbert, it would be one of the best trades in raptors history. Sure Gilbert has one of the worst contracts in the league, but Turk and Jose aren't too far behind and Gilbert has star power, a chip on his shoulder and the ability to replace Bosh's scoring and finally settle the pg issue.

    I cannot overstate the positive rippling effect getting rid of Jose and Turk would have on this team. One guy is a clubhouse cancer and the other is cancerous to defense.

    No one really knows what Gilbert has left in the tank, he has missed almost three straight seasons and the bad knee is a major flag, but he has always been a shooter and distributor whose game doesn't necessarily rely on speed.

    Best case scenario this past debacle has changed him and he is willing tow the company line and not be such a lone wolf. Worst case scenario he follows the Iverson path and never adjusts his game to mirror his advancing age or for the betterment of the team and drags everyone down with him.

    He will never live up to his contract, but he could easily put up 20-8 and be the go to guy at the end of games. From what I saw last season he looked sloppy, bad shooting percentage and too many turnovers, but if a player could ever benefit from a change in scenery its that guy.

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    Arenas never made the Wizards great even though he played with great guys like Butler and Jamieson, what makes you think he will do well in Toronto and make the Raptors great??

    Arenas is a bad idea a very very bad idea, I'd rather for Hedo's carcass to sit his ass home for another 4 years then have Arenas on the team.

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    Quote Hotshot wrote: View Post
    Arenas never made the Wizards great even though he played with great guys like Butler and Jamieson, what makes you think he will do well in Toronto and make the Raptors great??

    Arenas is a bad idea a very very bad idea, I'd rather for Hedo's carcass to sit his ass home for another 4 years then have Arenas on the team.
    Not sure what makes you think Butler and Jamison are great, but anyway.

    Arenas would be another swing for the fences type deal for BC.

    I doubt he'll be able to reach his previous level of production (consistently anyway). I'm sure he'd win the Raps some games, more games than Hedo would, but that's a pretty huge contract to have on the books for that long.

    It is an intriguing thought though I have to admit. As long as I'm not paying the luxury tax out of my own pocket, I'd be curious to see how it would work.

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    Seeing as how it is the same length deal as hedo's then no deal. Unless Jose is included
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    A couple or so years ago, I found myself reading Gilbert Arenas blog as he sporadically added to it. Eventually, he stopped it, but reading bit by bit, I pretty much got through it all. Found him to be a more interesting guy than I might’ve thought, previously. I'd be kind of intrigued to see him here, but ... well, it'd be interesting. Definitely potential.

    Don’t know if it’s all here, but I think this is the link to it, if you were interested.

    http://www.nba.com/blog/gilbert_arenas.html

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    I'm in total agreement with you too. No way Raps would want to take on such a max contract from gilbert arenas. This would be even a worst trade if bosh leaves because we be left in cap hold with no money to spell on up incoming free agency. Until bosh finally comes out and make it official that he's leaving, thats when BC have to decide whether hes going into rebuilding mode or contend.

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    They're not going to have cap space if Bosh stays. They're not going to have cap space if they do a S&T. MLSE said they're willing to spend above salary cap and so I say do the trade. Rid yourselves on two contracts around the same length for a player with more talent in his pinkie than the other two guys. Toronto is going to need a star player if Bosh leaves and they need a star player to convince him to stay for that matter. I'm not sure they can land a different talent on Gil's level. This is a time where Gil's market value is at its lowest, now's the time to buy. Hedo and Calderon together stink just as bad as Gil's contract but at least you know with Gil that if he's on the court he's going to do everything he can to be that max money guy you're paying for.

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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    They're not going to have cap space if Bosh stays. They're not going to have cap space if they do a S&T. MLSE said they're willing to spend above salary cap and so I say do the trade. Rid yourselves on two contracts around the same length for a player with more talent in his pinkie than the other two guys. Toronto is going to need a star player if Bosh leaves and they need a star player to convince him to stay for that matter. I'm not sure they can land a different talent on Gil's level. This is a time where Gil's market value is at its lowest, now's the time to buy. Hedo and Calderon together stink just as bad as Gil's contract but at least you know with Gil that if he's on the court he's going to do everything he can to be that max money guy you're paying for.
    you tokk the words right out of my mouth. getting gil would give us the best posiiblity of re-siging bosh and would improve our team. plus, getting rid of 2 worse caliber players and 1 guy who doesn't even want to be here.

    and you guys say no. um, ok if we don't bring artenas here than you can say by to bosh and we'll be in an even bigger hole than if we bring agent 0 here.

    plus, i am seeing a lot of you suggesting to bring brand here just so we can get that #2 pick and draft turner. that is an even more brutal plan then bringing gil here.

    agent 0 can still put up 20 points a game for you if you need him to. Brand simplay can't play anymore. he's more injury ridden then gill there fore it's a worse contract.

    plus, if we bring gil here and he actually plays well, we might be able to trade ihm to a team because he'll have 1 less year on his contract and will be playing better.

    you bring brand here and even if you draft turner, he won't be able to carry the team, we'll do poorly and there is no trading brand because nobody will ever want him because he can't play and get's paid way too much to be a bench warmer.

    end of story.

    nevermind changing our names to the huskies. we should start a petition to bring agent 0 here.
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