Wed Jun 2nd, 2010, 09:48 AM
It's luxury tax time regardless, if they want to win games in the playoffs. Its about time they pay the price of being the contending product they claim to want. Fans have been spending a lot of money in support that goal after all.
Wed Jun 2nd, 2010, 10:25 AM
I will not do it if it only involves Hedo. Why should we trade one bad contract to just get another bad one which is almost twice as large !! It just does not make sense. Gilbert is not a locker room guy, he is not a good influence on our young players , is very unstable and self destructive had alot of injuries and ....
The only way I do this:
Wizzard: Gilbert + a 1st Round Draft pick ( of course not their number 1)
Raptors: Jose and Hedo
Why Wizzard will do this :
Because they need to move Gilbert and I don't think anyone wants to pay that guy that much money while he is waving a gun in the locker room and they will get a SF who may get back into a shape and a descent PG who can distribute the ball well.
Why Raptors will do this:
Because I don't think we can off load both Hedo and Jose this summer and the draft pick will help us in our rebuilding process
Wed Jun 2nd, 2010, 10:42 AM
The Wiz have the 1st and last pick in the first round. Something tells me to remove Gil they would be willing to trade #30. They also have #35 by the way.
Wed Jun 2nd, 2010, 10:44 AM
Raptors Republic Starter
Definitely do this trade. The suspension really was a bonus - it gave his knee what was essentially another season to recuperate. Arenas will only come out stronger and more thirsty to prove himself - particularly to prove to himself not just that he can be an elite scorer but as well to others that he can be a good teammate - if he ends up with a new team in a new city. I can see him in TO, and thriving in TO.
I would though like to see if TO could also get Washington's 30th pick (or try to buy a slightly higher pick - perhaps from Memphis or OKC)
As well, I would prefer to trade Jack over Calderon. Calderon is the perfect backup PG (forget about his contract. Luxury tax and championship intent or bust!)
Derozan/Weems/Belli (Stanley Robinson?)
IF there is any cred to the idea that the Wizards may be open to a Turk/Jack/Evans for Arenas/Thornton swap, it makes it sweeter, as we could then use the later pick (if we can get one) to grab a defensive C.
Wed Jun 2nd, 2010, 11:06 AM
Raptors Republic Superstar
I completely disagree that this is a swing for the fences deal. It's not. It's an attempt to remain mediocre and convince fans that the Raptors have a chance at being competitive, which they don't. If Bosh leaves, they don't need to replace his scoring, they need to rebuild and figure out what kind of team they need to become, and trading for Arenas won't help that.
On top of that, Arenas has never been a good locker room guy and is definitely not the type of influence you want around the young Raptor players.
This would simply be an attempt to make it look like you're trying to do something when in fact you're just hurting the team. The shots Arenas would take would take shots away from the younger players who should be taking them.
And one big contract is far more difficult to deal with than two smaller deals, so financially, it would hurt the team, not because they would under the cap, but because they would lack flexibility. This trade would put the team back 3 or 4 years.
Wed Jun 2nd, 2010, 11:09 AM
Here we are then. I will not be surprised if we get them both and ship Jose and Hedo. But the question is that do we really want that? do we really want to have Gilbert in the locker room with all those young guys ?
Gilbert is a poison that Wizzard wants to have nothing to do with while Hedo and Jose are both serviceable, good locker room ( well at