Andrea is better than CB4. Period.
Andrea is better than CB4. Period.
All I gotta say is "LOL" and "LMAO" and "ROTFLMMFAO" and "He's not even close"... That's all.
Two years away...
in terms of professionalism and not not being an attention seeking douchebag, I would say Andrea is better. Anything else is kind of a stretch
That's just crazy talk, but Andrea is very under rated in my opinion.
He is better in every way.
1. Skill Set
2. Growth Potential
4. Better TV Commercials
5. Better hair
6. Speaks more languages
7. Better suits
8. More international experience
9. Better website/blog/twitter
10. Better ambassador/promoter of Toronto and the Raptors
You don't know anything about basketball, period.
You don't know anything about good names, period.
Ugh... Guys, care to contribute something constructive... Such as statements with supporting arguments? This thread has potential so bring it on.
I listed some of my top ten reasons.
Next year is going to be awesome man.
Season recap for the 2010-2011 season will be full of highlights of Bargs, Weems, and Amir POSTERIZING CB4, believe it.
Bargs' offensive brilliance will finally shine and we will get some new banger at the 5 spot to rock the glass. Gonna be sick Raps fans, get ready!
Bargnani, Weems and Amir need to work on posterizing role players before they try and lineup up the top dogs. I love the enthusiasm but I just hope it's not a coping mechanism.
Personally, I don't know if Bargani has proven himself to be better than Bosh at anything besides shot blocking and long range shooting. Beyond that he doesn't appear as intelligent as Bosh on the court, or as efficient and his consistency in all facets of the game is non-existent. I hope Bargnani matures into an all-star but right now I'm not sure how anyone can claim that he's remotely as good as Bosh.
2. Neither player is getting much better than they are right now. Unless you mean that Bargnani has a lot more to work on, then you're right.
3. Bargnani: "Being lazy maybe. That's the only reason it can be. I've got the body, I've got everything to take 10 rebounds a game. It's just sometimes I get lazy." I think that answers that.
4. Who cares.
5. Who cares.
6. Who cares.
7. Who cares.
8. Well, he's got more international experience than LeBron. And so do hundreds, possibly thousands of players currently playing in Europe. Unfortunately, that means nothing in the NBA.
9. Who care.
10. I'm not sure one dimensional gunner who has the physical potential to be great, but probably won't even make the All-Star team is a better ambassador of the Raptors than one of the top 10 or 20 players in the league, a perennial All-Star and a guy who has never been accused of not working hard.
During his chat today - some people were making fun of Vlad's defense:
5:48 [Comment From Vlad Rad Vlad Rad: ]
I was the worst defender of the last 15 years. Thursday June 3, 2010 5:48 Vlad Rad
5:48 John Hollinger: Andrea Bargnani takes exception to that comment
The Raptors better get someone good for Bosh!!! Bargs cannot carry this team!
i was going to disagree with this when i saw the title
but the author made such a great argument that i just have to agree with him..
Barg's skillset and talent is better than Bosh's , but Bosh is more aggressive ( sometimes ). Both cannot dribble to well, they both can take it to the hoop although Bargs doesnt do it enough. Barg's skillset is similar to Dirk's but his BBall IQ and heart is not even close. But overall talentwise I must agree with the original poster , Bargs is a better player, that's why he was chosen #1 overall , cuz of his talent...too bad his heart didnt catch up...yet?
Reasons Andrea Bargnani could be considered a better player than CB4
-more agile, quicker
-better shot blocker, post defender
-more potential in terms of physical attributes (he is bigger and faster than Bosh)
-Better passer, though he doesn't show it very often, when he does it's pretty brilliant
-Runs the floor much, much better
Reasons CB4 is considered better
-Better team defender
-better hands (I think, this could go the other way)
-Far more moves in terms of making shots
-Ability to piss off and confuse his fans via the internet (he may be the best in the league in this category)
Things I'm not sure about
-Leadership: we know Bosh can't, maybe Bargs can (probably not)
-Scoring ability as the number one option: Bargs has not been in that position, and since he is pretty much built to operate in the high post, he may get closer to Bosh if he is ever put in the high post.
-Desire to win: Neither of them have shown this very well.
Conclusion: While Bosh would seem to be a better player, there is an argument here to say Andrea is better. I don't think he is right now and I honestly doubt he ever will be, but there is a chance.
"Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival."
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