Last edited by Apollo; Thu Jun 3rd, 2010 at 09:13 PM.
There is not one defensive stat out there that doesn't basically say Bargnani isn't a terrible defender and add to that his brutal rebounding. His (inconsistent) offense doesn't make up for his defence and rebounding.
While Bosh gets to the line at a superstar rate, rebounds at great rate, he can draw the double-team (still needs to pass out of the double team better), and is the best ISO big man in the NBA (other than dirk). His defence is at worst average and he will hold his own on the defense side.
We should have this discussion next offseason, where we could see what Andrea's production will be after one year of being "the man"
Until then it's just ifs and buts
Bosh is certainly not a terrible post defender. Bosh's post defense improved quite a bit this year due to his added bulk, but Bosh, as well as Bargnani, let players get position far too close to the basket too much. Bargnani is better in some situations and Bosh is better in some situations. Bosh, however, is a much better team defender than Bargnani.
If 29 of the greatest NBA coaching minds in North America see Bosh as a better player than Bargnani, I think it's probably safe to say they're right.
And Bosh doesn't have a great basketball IQ, but it's much better than Bargnani's. Bargnani settles for fadeaways when he posts up a guard. And if Bosh's shot selection is so poor, why does he shoot a much higher percentage than Bargnani? And per 36 mpg, Bargnani was 2nd last in assists behind DeMar DeRozan, so he's not exactly a great passer, either.
The idea that Bosh disappears late in close games is a myth that has been disproven countless times. Bosh came up big time and time again in close games this year. Bargnani does seem to play well in the clutch, but he's asked to do much, much less. And it's the rest of the game that I have a problem with. At least Bosh is able to play consistently over the course of the game and season. Bargnani will disappear for entire quarters and even entire games. He doesn't have the type of game or personality that will allow teams to depend on him.
Quite frankly, the majority of the negative things for Bosh go twice that for Bargnani. And Bosh has far, far more strengths than Bargnani, as well.
All in all I think Bargs might put up better stats next year than Bosh, but by no means will he be making a more positive contribution to his team. Bargs is better than Bosh in a similar vein in which Bosh is better than Gasol. Gasol does almost everything well, Bosh does a couple things well and Bargs does one thing well.
Next year for thier value, I would say Bargs might be more valuable. Especially if a Bosh for Bynum happens. Similar stats, similar lacking defense and leadership for half the price tag.
I can't believe this got so many replies - especially ones that actually had some thought and effort behind them - since the OP had neither.
Obviously Bargnani''s not going to approach the rebounds that Bosh gets. Bargnani will no doubt get more blocks and three pointers, but that's about it. I simply don't see how Bargnani could ever get better stat than Bosh.
Last edited by Brasky; Fri Jun 4th, 2010 at 12:43 PM.
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