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    Default Does Ed Davis Mean the End of Amir Johnson Toronto?

    The title says it all. Please discuss.

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    I don't think so, if Bosh doesn't come back Davis, Bargnani, Johnson will be a strong big man rotation with complementary skills. Davis and Johnson don't seem to clash with each other, and without Johnson our front court would be Bargnani, a rookie, Reggie, and Joey Dorsey, which is pretty thin, so I think BC would still want Amir back.

    Edit: I forgot about Alabi. Now him and Amir have quite similar skillsets, so getting him might mean something...

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    Quote Kennay wrote: View Post
    I don't think so, if Bosh doesn't come back Davis, Bargnani, Johnson will be a strong big man rotation with complementary skills. Davis and Johnson don't seem to clash with each other, and without Johnson our front court would be Bargnani, a rookie, Reggie, and Joey Dorsey, which is pretty thin, so I think BC would still want Amir back.

    Edit: I forgot about Alabi. Now him and Amir have quite similar skillsets, so getting him might mean something...
    Alabi is no where close to Johnson this year and probably next year.

    I dare to say that Davis is not even close to what Johnson can do on the floor this year.

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    Quote Kennay wrote: View Post
    I don't think so, if Bosh doesn't come back Davis, Bargnani, Johnson will be a strong big man rotation with complementary skills. Davis and Johnson don't seem to clash with each other, and without Johnson our front court would be Bargnani, a rookie, Reggie, and Joey Dorsey, which is pretty thin, so I think BC would still want Amir back.

    Edit: I forgot about Alabi. Now him and Amir have quite similar skillsets, so getting him might mean something...
    Amir's a PF, Alabi's a center. I don't see why one would effect the other.

    And I don't see this stopping the Raptors from offering a contract to Amir. Amir might not want to sign, but Davis is a rookie. And a bit of a project at that. I don't see Davis starting at first, so having Amir will be necessary.

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    Defensively and as a rebounder is where Davis shows the most potential, thanks to his rare combination of fundamentals and physical tools. He ranks as one of the best shot-blockers in college basketball, being a major presence in the paint with his terrific length and timing, and should be able to make big strides as a post-defender and rim-protector as he continues to add strength to his frame. His wingspan allows him to go well outside of his area for rebounds as well, again being very productive in this area on both ends of the floor with his 12.4 rebounds per-40 minutes pace adjusted
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    Quote Tim W. wrote: View Post
    Amir's a PF, Alabi's a center. I don't see why one would effect the other.
    Well yeah, okay, those are their "positions". A lot of people had Amir tabbed playing some back up centre minutes though, and what he brings to the table is hustle and defense, quite similar to Alabi, and I dare say Alabi is projected to be better offensively then Amir. Maybe BC saw a chance to grab a cheaper replacement with higher upside. Its a perfectly viable thought process.

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    I doubt it. I wouldn't be surprised if Amir and E.D. split minutes, maybe 24 apiece.

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    No it means the end of Chris Bosh or rather the acceptance by managment that Chris Bosh is unlikely to be re-signed.

    Lets not forget that also Rasho is gone and POB is gone and if there are any takers then Reggie Evans will be gone so there are spots for bigs in the roster.

    Lets just hope that Amir accepts Toronto offer and we at least get one worry out of the way.

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    I don't think so especially if Bosh is gone.

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    Quote Hotshot wrote: View Post
    No it means the end of Chris Bosh or rather the acceptance by managment that Chris Bosh is unlikely to be re-signed.

    Lets not forget that also Rasho is gone and POB is gone and if there are any takers then Reggie Evans will be gone so there are spots for bigs in the roster.

    Lets just hope that Amir accepts Toronto offer and we at least get one worry out of the way.
    exactly, with possibly all 4 of those guys gone.

    you have Bargnani/Alabi
    Johnson/Davis/Dorsey
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    Amir spent the week in Detroit and I am sure Duffy is working the phone lines. Pop will probably make another run at him like he did three years ago and Flip would love to have him in Washington after coaching him in Detroit.

    I am sure Johnson will make the best decision for himself.
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    PG: Jose Calderon / Jarrett Jack / Marcus Banks
    SG: Demar DeRozen / Marco Belinelli
    SF: Turkulgu / Sonny Weem
    PF: Ed Davis / Amir Johnson (free agent)/ Reggie Evans
    C: Andrea Bargnani / Soloman
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    Nah, I think they'll keep both. There are enough minutes available + Amir will be signing a cost effective contract + there is a lack of alternative bigs on the market who would better complement Davis/Bargnani in that price bracket.

    If Toronto gets a big man, say David Lee, in a Chris Bosh sign and trade ... that coupled with Ed Davis could force Amir Johnson out of the Toronto but for now I think they'll look to keep Amir.

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    Quote Dave wrote: View Post
    Nah, I think they'll keep both. There are enough minutes available + Amir will be signing a cost effective contract + there is a lack of alternative bigs on the market who would better complement Davis/Bargnani in that price bracket.

    If Toronto gets a big man, say David Lee, in a Chris Bosh sign and trade ... that coupled with Ed Davis could force Amir Johnson out of the Toronto but for now I think they'll look to keep Amir.
    BC has already stated he wants Johnson to return and Johnson likes Toronto and Triano. He is also buddies with DeRozan. However, none of us really have a clue what he is looking for in his next contract.

    1. He might want to play for a possible Finals team next season and could get an offer from one

    2. He might want to play in CA and get an offer from a CA team.

    I am sure that he will have more than a half a dozen offers and will make the best choice for himself based upon what his goals are.

    Raptors fans shouldn't worry about it, after all the Raptors now have Ed Davis.
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    Quote Dave wrote: View Post
    Nah, I think they'll keep both. There are enough minutes available + Amir will be signing a cost effective contract + there is a lack of alternative bigs on the market who would better complement Davis/Bargnani in that price bracket.

    If Toronto gets a big man, say David Lee, in a Chris Bosh sign and trade ... that coupled with Ed Davis could force Amir Johnson out of the Toronto but for now I think they'll look to keep Amir.
    Why on earth would the Raptors get David Lee back after drafting Ed Davis? Actually, this is even better news. By drafting Ed Davis, it pretty much guarantees David Lee is NOT going to be in a Raptors jersey next year. Things are looking better and better all the time.

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    Quote Tim W. wrote: View Post
    Why on earth would the Raptors get David Lee back after drafting Ed Davis? Actually, this is even better news. By drafting Ed Davis, it pretty much guarantees David Lee is NOT going to be in a Raptors jersey next year. Things are looking better and better all the time.
    Totally agree Tim... I pray every day that D. Lee doesn't come to Toronto. I'm not sure why ppl have a man-crush on D. Lee... he can't defend worth a lick!

    I'm a huge tar heel fan so to have one of Ed's calibre & pedigree on the team makes me very happy.

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    Totally agree Tim... I pray every day that D. Lee doesn't come to Toronto. I'm not sure why ppl have a man-crush on D. Lee... he can't defend worth a lick!

    I'm a huge tar heel fan so to have one of Ed's calibre & pedigree on the team makes me very happy.
    Some Raptor fans don't know what they want. They rip on Bosh and Bargnani for their defense and then proceed to want David Lee as the replacement. They rip on Calderon for his defense and then proceed to want Monta Ellis. They rip on DeRozan for his defense and then want Kevin Martin.

    I think they just like the pretty offensive numbers.

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    Quote Quixotic wrote: View Post
    Some Raptor fans don't know what they want. They rip on Bosh and Bargnani for their defense and then proceed to want David Lee as the replacement. They rip on Calderon for his defense and then proceed to want Monta Ellis. They rip on DeRozan for his defense and then want Kevin Martin.

    I think they just like the pretty offensive numbers.
    Ya, but all those guys will play much better defense once they GET to Toronto....

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    If Bosh goes I think Amir starts next year with Davis coming off the bench for 20-25 minutes a game until they think Davis is ready. This isn't like DeRozen where we didn't really have any other serviceable player at his position (Weems was almost Waived and Belli was an unknown) and I think they will keep developing Johnson so when we are finished developing Davis, we will have a fantastic back up coming in for him. I also think you'll see Davis log some time at center with Amir at PF when we decide to go small. Evans will be moved this summer, is expiring contract should be attractive to a couple of teams (like NO or something).
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    Keep Amir at a reasonable cost. Having crossover talent at the position helps not being painted into a corner come negotiation time. BC if anything seems to overpay those he covets and would make AJ a fair offer I believe. AJ should take a short term deal (2-3) with the Raps, work himself to the next level and then go for the nectar contract.

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    Resign Amir, plug Davis into a starting role, see what Alabi can do and uh oh it sounds like Bargs minutes are drying up faster that he can miss an assignment on defense. I'm finally starting to like the direction this team is going and BC hasn't even fired up the grill yet.

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