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    Heat Make Contract Offer To Bosh, Don't Get Early Commitment

    Jul 01, 2010 8:15 PM EST

    Chris Bosh had an 'impressive and productive' meeting with the Heat on Thursday.

    Miami offered a contract proposal to Bosh, but they were unable to secure an early commitment.

    Via Michael Wallace/Miami Herald (via Twitter)
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    Like I thought - No sign and trade involved. Lets see if he eventually accepts it.
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    Interesting that Bosh has just tweeted something about going to his next meeting but he has not tweeted anything about Johnson's contract. Of course as everyone has said he is Raptors history, so I guess it is not too surprising. However, you would think he could give a Twitter shout out to Amir on the contract.

    Maybe Bosh is too self-involved to give a rats butt. Kind of like he was as a Raptors player.
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    Quote Buddahfan wrote: View Post
    Maybe Bosh is too self-involved to give a rats butt. Kind of like he was as a Raptors player.
    Exactly .... when it comes to his extra-curricular activities Bosh has always been self-involved.

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    I think most teams are hoping to convince Bosh to sign for less so they won't have to do a sign and trade with the Raptors.

    I wouldn't be suprised if this was Miami's offer and Bosh agent rejected it.

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    I think most teams are hoping to convince Bosh to sign for less so they won't have to do a sign and trade with the Raptors.

    I wouldn't be suprised if this was Miami's offer and Bosh agent rejected it.
    Bosh's agent is Wade's agent.

    In the end I think he will sign with Miami. I think he likes the process and being courted so the will go through the motions but in the end wind up in Miami. Just saying
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    Quote Buddahfan wrote: View Post
    Bosh's agent is Wade's agent.
    It doesn't matter, an agent is loyal to his indvidual clients specific needs as opposed to the team the players play full.

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    It doesn't matter, an agent is loyal to his indvidual clients specific needs as opposed to the team the players play full.
    I doubt that Thomas wants to piss either of his clients Wade or Bosh off. If Wade wants Bosh in Miami Thomas will do his best to make it happen not just for Bosh but also because he doesn't want to piss Wade off.

    If Riley wants Bosh and Wade wants Bosh Riley will put pressure on Wade who will in turn put pressure on Thomas and Thomas and Wade will put pressure on Bosh. So in the end Bosh will be more likely to sign there even if it means less money because Riley doesn't want to do a S&T. Don't discount the value of the friendship between Wade and Bosh.
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    Quote Buddahfan wrote: View Post
    Interesting that Bosh has just tweeted something about going to his next meeting but he has not tweeted anything about Johnson's contract. Of course as everyone has said he is Raptors history, so I guess it is not too surprising. However, you would think he could give a Twitter shout out to Amir on the contract.

    Maybe Bosh is too self-involved to give a rats butt. Kind of like he was as a Raptors player.
    Bosh didn't tweet about Johnson's deal?

    He should be shot for not being attuned to this recent development as it greatly affects his future, no?

    Who cares!!

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    Bosh didn't tweet about Johnson's deal?

    He should be shot for not being attuned to this recent development as it greatly affects his future, no?

    Who cares!!
    He could have been a nice guy. After all he did play on the same team as Johnson this last season.
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    It doesn't matter to me either way, but how do you know he didn't call him personally?

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    Quote sleepz wrote: View Post
    It doesn't matter to me either way, but how do you know he didn't call him personally?
    Who calls anyone these days? Text message? Psh, that's last generation. If you don't tweet it, it didn't happen.

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    Quote Buddahfan wrote: View Post
    Like I thought - No sign and trade involved. Lets see if he eventually accepts it.
    I think that assumption is a bit of a reach. It would be odd (to me, at least) to not make an offer, then try to reach a S&T agreement with Toronto, then failing that finally making an offer to Bosh. If I was Bosh, I'd want that offer on the table immediately so I have the option to accept it for whatever reason. Then we talk to BC and see if we can work something out, and BC can see that if he doesn't work something out I can simply walk. Makes more sense that way, it clears up any ambiguities that may occur if we try for a S&T first and fail, and it's not exactly difficult to add in the S&T bit and change a few numbers later.
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    Quote Buddahfan wrote: View Post
    If Riley wants Bosh and Wade wants Bosh Riley will put pressure on Wade who will in turn put pressure on Thomas and Thomas and Wade will put pressure on Bosh. So in the end Bosh will be more likely to sign there even if it means less money because Riley doesn't want to do a S&T. Don't discount the value of the friendship between Wade and Bosh.
    Wade gets his cake and eats it too.
    Riley gets his cake and eats it too.
    Why doesn't Bosh gets to have his cake eat it too? And $30 million worth of cake is not a joke. Bosh is smart enough to understand that he can't make this loss via sponsorship deals. he is not going anywhere without his max contract and he can only achieve that via a S & T. And no way the agent is losing his commission and displeasing one client to make the other happy.
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    It doesn't matter to me either way, but how do you know he didn't call him personally?
    Good point. The young gunz and MacKenzie tweeted him but I guess Bosh could have called him or maybe even did it the archaic way; emailed him . Maybe Bosh had more to say then he could put in a tweet or didn't want to bother typing a long tweet
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    Maybe they just aren't close friends? Maybe Bosh is busy in meetings and hasn't even noticed. Maybe some of us here need more hobbies...

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    Quote Quixotic wrote: View Post
    I think that assumption is a bit of a reach. It would be odd (to me, at least) to not make an offer, then try to reach a S&T agreement with Toronto, then failing that finally making an offer to Bosh. If I was Bosh, I'd want that offer on the table immediately so I have the option to accept it for whatever reason. Then we talk to BC and see if we can work something out, and BC can see that if he doesn't work something out I can simply walk. Makes more sense that way, it clears up any ambiguities that may occur if we try for a S&T first and fail, and it's not exactly difficult to add in the S&T bit and change a few numbers later.
    There is nothing that the Heat have that the Raptors want.

    Drug addict Beasley, please. Chalmers double please. He can't carry the sneakers of either Calderon or Jack and barely those of Banks.

    That is all they have.

    http://hoopshype.com/salaries/miami.htm

    So maybe a S&T where BC gets a TPE and future picks. That might be possible if Riley wants to give it up. However, I am sure he would prefer not to and Wade, Riley and Thomas will all work on Bosh to just walk. We shall see.
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    Hell even Reggie tweeted Johnson and congratulated him
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    Quote Quixotic wrote: View Post
    Who calls anyone these days? Text message? Psh, that's last generation. If you don't tweet it, it didn't happen.
    Oh, hell. I''ve been backed up for years, then. I've really got to tweet before I do serious damage.

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    I know better than most what Miami has. :-p But if we are retooling and not rebuilding, the TPE alone is far better than nothing. Losing Bosh = losing most of his cap allocation. As it stands, if Bosh walks, we only have the MLE. If we want to retool, we NEED that TPE from Miami.

    And one has nothing to do with the other at this point. One is whether Toronto would want to S&T for anything Miami has and the other is your assumption that Miami and Bosh have already decided on a straight signing without consulting Toronto. Bosh *supposedly* hasn't even made up his mind yet, let alone present his final team selection for BC to decide whether or not to S&T. =P

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    There is nothing that the Heat have that the Raptors want.

    Drug addict Beasley, please. Chalmers double please. He can't carry the sneakers of either Calderon or Jack and barely those of Banks.

    That is all they have.

    http://hoopshype.com/salaries/miami.htm

    So maybe a S&T where BC gets a TPE and future picks. That might be possible if Riley wants to give it up. However, I am sure he would prefer not to and Wade, Riley and Thomas will all work on Bosh to just walk. We shall see.

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    How exactly does the TPE exception work...If Toronto gets a 16+ million TPE from Miami...can they use that money to sign players, or does it have to be used through trades only? Can a player, with a contract of, say, 10 million, be traded to TO for 10 million of the TPE, leaving the Raps with 6+ million to be used similarly? Can a player (or combination of players) with a contract(s) larger than 16+ million come to TO, use all the TPE, then TO pays the remainder?

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