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    Default Rockets Offering Ariza, Battier, Scola in Sign-and-Trade Deals

    The Houston Rockets would like to snag one of the top free-agent power forwards, such as Chris Bosh(notes) or Amar'e Stoudemire(notes), but it would have to do a sign-and-trade deal in order to get under the salary cap.

    Source http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/rumors/p...urn=nba,253093

    Ariza, Battier and Scola for Bosh? I think that would definitely make us a better team.

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    If Bosh would go there I'd do it in a second. Those three players would immediately make us a good to very good defensive team and all of them have reasonable contracts. Probably among the best deals we would ever get for Bosh in an s&t.
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    I'd do this trade. Scola is scrappy. Overall, 3 solid defenders.
    I heard Houston is a "tough sell" for Chris. We'll see.

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    "Ariza, Battier and Scola for Bosh?"
    dream on...

    Scola must be one of the most underrated players in this league! Does all the dirty work, does not demand the ball... and is some one who comes to play every night, unlike some Raptors!
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    Quote vino wrote: View Post
    "Ariza, Battier and Scola for Bosh?"
    dream on...

    Scola must be one of the most underrated players in this league! Does all the dirty work, does not demand the ball... and is some one who comes to play every night, unlike some Raptors!
    Stranger things have happened man. Houston seems to really want Bosh and if they're offering all this to make it happen then it shows. However, I don't see Chris jumping out of his chair at the chance to play with Yao, Aaron Brooks and Kevin Martin

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    Quote OzRapFan wrote: View Post
    Ariza, Battier and Scola for Bosh? I think that would definitely make us a better team.
    That's a no brainer, but I don't know how delusional a GM could be to give up that much to acquire someone like Bosh.

    If it happens, we're laughing but I can't sincerely see this ever coming to fruition.

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    Yeah, seems too good to be true.

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    Scola is a rfa and needs to be signed. He'll be looking for about a 8-10 mil./ deal (seeing as how we are paying Amir close to 7. A wonderful piece for a in-transition team. Houston has a couple of future first rounders I believe one of which would be nice instead of Battier (who I like much and a good guy all round). This does seem a bit much though for a gm like Morey so I wouldnt get too excited and nevermind that Bosh has to want to go there.

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    I think Bosh is going to land where ever Wade or James goes. The Rockets makes sense for the Raptors but probably not for Bosh.

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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    I think Bosh is going to land where ever Wade or James goes. The Rockets makes sense for the Raptors but probably not for Bosh.
    It should in fact make sense for Bosh on a few grounds:

    a) They have very good team and coach in place
    b) They wont gut their team in a s&t because they have as many assets as they do
    c) Lesser tax rate in Texas = more cash
    d) He'll be the man with Yao transitioning out and not the offensive force
    e) They seem to really want him

    But if he is intent on playing a Robin with either Wade or James thats another matter.

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    Good trade on paper, but would leave the Raps with a glut of PF (Scola, Johnson, Davis and Evans) and SF (Turkoglu, Ariza, Battier).

    If I were BC, I would try to do a 3-way trade with New Orleans, to wind up with Paul & Okafor. I'm not sure who exactly would go where, but between the assets Toronto would get from Houston and assets they already have to offer (players/picks/expiring contracts), I think a pretty decent package could be put together (in addition to taking Okafor's contract) to get Paul, who is rumored to have requested a trade.

    Talk about 'young guns', how good would a core of Paul, Bargnani, Johnson, Ariza, DeRozan, Davis, Weems and Alabi look???

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    Quote Bendit wrote: View Post
    It should in fact make sense for Bosh on a few grounds:

    a) They have very good team and coach in place
    b) They wont gut their team in a s&t because they have as many assets as they do
    c) Lesser tax rate in Texas = more cash
    d) He'll be the man with Yao transitioning out and not the offensive force
    e) They seem to really want him

    But if he is intent on playing a Robin with either Wade or James thats another matter.

    Then why is it that the Rockets are said to be a long shot? You can't will Bosh to want to choose the Rockets, who are an inferior choice compared to playing with the Bulls or teaming Wade and/or James. Hell, the Lakers are a far better option than the Rockets for Bosh.

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    If it sounds too good to be true it usually is

    And since were Toronto fans its always too good to be true

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    Quote CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View Post
    Good trade on paper, but would leave the Raps with a glut of PF (Scola, Johnson, Davis and Evans) and SF (Turkoglu, Ariza, Battier).

    If I were BC, I would try to do a 3-way trade with New Orleans, to wind up with Paul & Okafor. I'm not sure who exactly would go where, but between the assets Toronto would get from Houston and assets they already have to offer (players/picks/expiring contracts), I think a pretty decent package could be put together (in addition to taking Okafor's contract) to get Paul, who is rumored to have requested a trade.

    Talk about 'young guns', how good would a core of Paul, Bargnani, Johnson, Ariza, DeRozan, Davis, Weems and Alabi look???
    Why is everybody obsessed with us getting Paul?
    Its not happening guys

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    Sounds good, although one of the assets I want most from Houston are those NY draft picks. If NY strikes out in this FA period, those are going to be some high lottery picks. We could use Scola at C as well, which makes him a much better fit than Hill.

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    Quote OzRapFan wrote: View Post
    The Houston Rockets would like to snag one of the top free-agent power forwards, such as Chris Bosh(notes) or Amar'e Stoudemire(notes), but it would have to do a sign-and-trade deal in order to get under the salary cap.

    Source http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/rumors/p...urn=nba,253093

    Ariza, Battier and Scola for Bosh? I think that would definitely make us a better team.
    Hello, BC, I need their draft pick(1 first and 1 second round pick for next year), large TPE, Budinger and Jordan Hill and we are in business.

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    Quote CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View Post
    Good trade on paper, but would leave the Raps with a glut of PF (Scola, Johnson, Davis and Evans) and SF (Turkoglu, Ariza, Battier).

    If I were BC, I would try to do a 3-way trade with New Orleans, to wind up with Paul & Okafor. I'm not sure who exactly would go where, but between the assets Toronto would get from Houston and assets they already have to offer (players/picks/expiring contracts), I think a pretty decent package could be put together (in addition to taking Okafor's contract) to get Paul, who is rumored to have requested a trade.

    Talk about 'young guns', how good would a core of Paul, Bargnani, Johnson, Ariza, DeRozan, Davis, Weems and Alabi look???
    Actually, if I were BC, I would get Budinger, Jordan Hill, first and second round pick and a large TPE. Pass the TPE to New Orleans for Collison(young PG, not Paul, I like Paul but he would not like a rebuilding situation) and Posey or Okafor(depends on if we sell Turkoglu, even if he returns, Posey is the better option, could start and be a perimeter defender and space the floors with his 3s or could come of the bench for Turkoglu with the same defensive mentality). Trade expiring contracts(reggie evans, marcus banks, belinelli) to team under cap for TPE and pass to Kings since they have their starting center in Demarcus Cousins(and a viable back-up in Hassan Whiteside) for Sam Dalembert and we are set.

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    Quote octothorp wrote: View Post
    Sounds good, although one of the assets I want most from Houston are those NY draft picks. If NY strikes out in this FA period, those are going to be some high lottery picks. We could use Scola at C as well, which makes him a much better fit than Hill.
    Nice thinking, Octothorp, I am thinking the Knicks are going to be the laughing stock during this free agency.. The Knicks will suck again next year and getting those New York draft picks will be really important.

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    Quote smushmush wrote: View Post
    Nice thinking, Octothorp, I am thinking the Knicks are going to be the laughing stock during this free agency.. The Knicks will suck again next year and getting those New York draft picks will be really important.
    I swear the Knicks are like the Leafs but in Basketball.
    At least Leafs are gonna be progressing haha.
    I still don't know which one of the top tier FAs are gonna sign with NY.. The Knicks are going to end up signing some random people

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    Then why is it that the Rockets are said to be a long shot? You can't will Bosh to want to choose the Rockets, who are an inferior choice compared to playing with the Bulls or teaming Wade and/or James. Hell, the Lakers are a far better option than the Rockets for Bosh.
    There is of course no question that Bosh has been "biased" towards playing with Wade &/or LJ. And of course the media has been running with that angle for a year now at least. I think there is some gumming up of the Miami troika thing happening...or it would have been done about now...whats the holdup if it was such a slam dunk (at least Wade & Bosh). Amare has come into play and the rumour about questioning Bosh in Miami. Do you really think (without any f/as) that Chicago is a better team than Houston going forward? LA in my view was always a long shot. Now that they won its even longer. I cannot figure how Bosh would make that team better by deleting Bynum (even at 70%).

    Anyway, I admit it is a bit wishful of me...but other than a Noah return from Chi. Houston would be best for the Raps and I dont believe its a stretch that it's a good place for Bosh on many levels. Circumstances might yet conspire that Houston be the only place he could get the S&T max. Ironic because they dont have cap space ! Would you be surprised if Miami & Chi. are not offering Bosh a 6 yr. absolute max (thru s&t)?

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