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    Default Toronto 100, Houston 91

    DeMar DeRozan still lacks range from three-point land and didn't know what to do with the basketball at the top of the key when his teammates failed to get open. He did, however, look tremendous on a fast break dunk and used a great pump-fake to get a defender in the air. He then leaned in to draw a foul while making a tough shot.

    Ed Davis didn't get himself in position for many rebounds, something that could be troublesome if Toronto looks for him to help collect some of the misses that Chris Bosh used to handle.
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    Game #2 vs Rockets
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    I watched this one.

    1. Dorsey - Strong, good hands, good nose for the ball. Out hustled and out fought more than one Rockets player more than a couple of times for the rebound. Similar to Evans but younger and stronger. Dosey should make the roster in November and there is a good chance that he could wind up getting some regular rotation minutes.

    2. Alabi - As advertised. Was good on the offensive glass and showed a nice shooting touch including at the free throw line. Did not look like a very good rebounder on the defensive end. Needs to add strength

    3. Davis - Looked like a total project - The first thing one notices about him is that he will get pushed around something horrible in the NBA until he does some serious bulking up. Showed a good nose for the ball on the defensive glass. His entire post defense consists of blocking shots. On the offense he had one nice spin move drive to the basket from the left elbow. That was it. His entire offense consists of dribbling left and trying to get to the basket for a layup. Big disappointment. This kid is not close to being able to play serious NBA minutes of any kind.

    4. - Weems - Showed excellent handles including one very nice dribble drive cross over for a bucket. Of course he can still leap and run.

    5. - DeRozan - Outstanding to say the least. - He showed a good aggressiveness far more so than last season, a significantly improved mid-range game, added strength allowing him to get inside get fouled and finish and of course his exceptional athleticism. He did a nice job on defense. By far the best Raptors player and player period in the game. Raptors have three more LVSL games left. However at this point I think it is safe to say that 15 - 20 points a game for him 2010-11 would not be over estimating what he will get on the offense.

    6. Dee Brown - Looked a little bit like Iverson when Iverson had the corn rows. While he may not be the blur he once was he is still plenty quick.
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    Add Ed Davis
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    1. I know it was only his second game in over 5 months however he looked really bad in defensive transition. Often lagging the play and his man by 15-25 feet once the Rockets had pushed the ball into their front court. I don't know if he is still not in condition or he was out of position on offense or it was just lack of effort. Hopefully it was the first. We will find out soon enough.

    2. It is clear that even though he appears to be a good defensive rebounder and shot blocker his game is below the rim more than I expected. Again this could be a lack of conditioning however, in the N.C. video of him it appears that he does not play above the rim but more like at it or below except when blocking shots.

    3. Patterson took him too school way too often.
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    nice analysis baddahfan, I seen alabi over extented too much on the pick and roll defense a few times. Would rather see him stay at home more.

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    Weems This is more than Belinelli

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    Toronto 102 New York 89 F

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    Does mike roll ever miss?

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    Game #3 vs the Undersized Knicks

    This game was hard to watch. At times it did have a good flow to it but it was a very choppy game with 64 free throws in the 40 minutes

    The Knicks had no interest in playing defense the whole game with the Raptors ringing up 85 points in the first 30 minutes. That equates to 136 points over 48 minutes.

    So because of the excessive number of fouls the Knicks being very undersized except for that superstar J. Jordan and their lack of defense numbers in this game are meaningless

    Having said that I did want to comment a bit about Davis.

    1. He did hit one mid range jumper from the right side showing a quick release and nice form.

    2. The thing that has impressed me the most about him in the two games that I have seen him play in the LVSL is his interior passing. He has shown good court awareness, accuracy and timing in his interior passing.

    The only other thing to add is that he was definitely more active in the paint than in the prior game but that could have been at least partially due to the fact that the Knicks really did not have any big bodies in the paint.
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    Back to Summer League for a second.

    You know what I think of it and I haven’t watched a single second of a single game but I have talked to people who are out there because I figure you want to know what’s going on.

    The word:

    DeRozan and Weems look really good, lots of good chemistry; DeMar seems to have worked quite hard in his ball-handling and they’ve had some highlight reel stuff. That’s to be expected, of course, since they’re facing mainly non-NBA talent, but the thing people are most impressed with is the improvement in things like ball-handling, defensive awareness and cohesion.

    Early reports on Ed Davis? Athletic, hasn’t had moments of mind-wandering too often, can keep up athletically and has more offensive game than some thought, at least at the summer league level. Seeing how he hadn’t played five-on-five since February, everyone seems pleased with progress.

    Solomon Alabi? First day, got this: “Hope he likes Erie.” Since then, he seems to have become more comfortable. Remains a long-term project.

    And now the guy everyone wants to know about: The New Legend Joey (Not Tommy) Dorsey.

    Kid’s a bull, built like a linebacker and doesn’t mind contact at all. Has looked good and aggressive and solid on the boards. Is he a keeper? Depending on how many guys they end up with on the final roster, there are those who think he might just get some kind of non-guaranteed deal.
    Source: Doug Smith's Blog

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    Great game so far

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    Default Young Raptors Go To 4-0 - Cousins Almost Blows a Fuse

    1. Davis looks like he has finally gotten his legs under him and was a blocking machine. He also ran the floor a lot better in this game then in the other three. He continued to show a nice shooting touch. However, his lack of muscle continues to show. Now in his defense as was mentioned on the telecast he was not able to work out for months while recovering from his broken wrist surgery. So I expect that he will get stronger and we should see this added strength come October.

    2. DeRozan played another excellent all around game and continued to be very efficient on the offensive end getting to the free throw line 13 times on 12 field goal attempts, making 6 of 12 FGA and finishing with a game high 22.

    3. Weems - Played a little out of control on the offense and it seemed to me that he forced his offense more than he should have reverting to what we saw in 09-10. He finished 6 of 19 from the field. He continues to show excellent ball handling skills and added some very nice passes. He finished with 3 assists. I look for the Raptors to take advantage of this once November rolls around.

    4. Alabi - Another excellent game on both ends of the court. This guy continues to impress me at both ends of the court. If he has a good October I can see him being part of the regular rotation come November.

    Cousins - We all know that physically this guy is a beast, big and strong. He is also extremely talented with a nice shooting touch and good footwork on offense. Top notch rebounder.

    A big red flag went up in the first half. He did not have a good first half at all shooting something like 1 for 10. Eventually he did get it together in the second half.

    However, in the first half for the first time in his very young NBA career he was very frustrated. He almost blew a fuse. You could see the anger and frustration in his face and body language. At one point after a Kings bucket he intentionally shoved Dorsey off the court. A bush league play to say the least. Dorsey did not retaliate. Eventually Cousins fouled out with a couple of minutes remaining. The game was close at the time when Cousins went to the bench for the last time. Once there he started smiling laughing and joking around.

    Two very negative things about him became very clear in this game

    1. He is still very immature
    2. The veterans are going to get into his craw plenty once November rolls around. I expect him to blow more than one fuse out there. How he deals with all of this only time will tell. However, it wouldn't surprise me to see him start making extra trips to McDonalds.

    I am predicting it right now. Unless he can get his emotions and temper under control he will eat his way out of the league. By the same token if can get his emotions and temper under control he will become an all-star.
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    Thanks for the details. I didn't see this one.

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    I can see Garnett putting Cousins' name down in his list of "people whom I should taunt excessively."

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    I forgot two things

    Here is the link to the box score

    http://www.nba.com/summerleague/game.../gameinfo.html

    Secondly, BC was interviewed at the announcers' table during the second quarter. He was very upbeat especially about the Raptors being a more up athletic and uptempo team in 10-11.

    The announcers were asking him about Bargnani. BC went on to say that he thinks that Bargani can continue to grow and take on more responsibility on the offensive end.

    Then he said something that sent a very big smile across my face. He said "We really like the Bargnani and Johnson metrics" from last season. LOL. Its nice to see that the Raptors management looks at the advanced hoops stats and believes in what they show. Hopefully this will translate into a 41+ win season for the Raptors in 10-11.
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    cousins got abused tonight ed davis played his best game. Cousins didn't even score in the first half and fouled out of the game at 10 fouls!

    derozan and weems played well.

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    I felt cousins got beat up this game by davis, Dorsey, and alabi. They say cousins is ready to start and should have been picked #2 and Ed Davis was smacking alot of his shots into the stands so...I think we can now safely say we got a steal at # 13.

    Who is our big man coach ? Cause I can see Ed Davis being like J o'neal in his prime, that's with some training tho. Alabi can be like dalembert but 7 foot 1 and with a mid-range game.
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    Derozan's game seems to be highly improved. Anyone know what he's been doing over the summer? His jumper looks fluid and not robotic-like, as it was last year.
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    Quote Arenick wrote: View Post
    Derozan's game seems to be highly improved. Anyone know what he's been doing over the summer? His jumper looks fluid and not robotic-like, as it was last year.
    He has been working out quite a bit in CA. and with guys like Amir, Jennings of the Bucks (he is from Compton as well). Kobe seems to like him a lot and they get together and JR Smith of the Nuggets. So he has good basketball company and must have picked up some pointers as well. Its always been said that he's been a hard worker so that helps. I can still see where he needs to handle the ball much better in order to create his shot...I dont think I have seen him crossover or use his left hand at the rim. But itll come I think.

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    Quote Bendit wrote: View Post
    He has been working out quite a bit in CA. and with guys like Amir, Jennings of the Bucks (he is from Compton as well). Kobe seems to like him a lot and they get together and JR Smith of the Nuggets. So he has good basketball company and must have picked up some pointers as well. Its always been said that he's been a hard worker so that helps. I can still see where he needs to handle the ball much better in order to create his shot...I dont think I have seen him crossover or use his left hand at the rim. But itll come I think.
    Hold on. From what I've been reading around here, DeRozan's just been hanging around with those no good Weems and Johnson, making videos and not working on his game. Are you telling me the people who have been saying that are full of s**t?

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    Great post man.
    Thanks Buddah.

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