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    Default According to MSNBC the Raptors Are "Very Interested" in Barbosa

    Here's a name that we haven't heard in a long time now, Leandro Barbosa.

    The Suns are actively shopping Leandro Barbosa, and the Celtics and Raptors are said to be very interested.

    Barbosa is a speedy scorer who has shown flashes of brilliance in his career, but the Suns might be ready to commit to Goran Dragic at backup PG. They also have Jason Richardson at SG and likely don't want to pay his backup $14.6 million over the next two seasons.
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    Explosive guard who can get you 15 a night isn't a bad thing. If it's for Jose or Banks(expiring for Phoenix) + whoever I do it.

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    agreed realist!!!! It all depends on the asking price...if it is for an expiring contract (banks or Evans) I am all for it.....If they ask for DD then no thank you....

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    Not to mention someone who can push the ball for the young guns would be a real good thing as well... With Bosh most likely not coming back and us possibly not doing a side and trade...Getting Barbosa would be a good fit IMO

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    how's his defence?

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    Not stellar, but quick and with quick hands and probably would be the best defender among the Raptors guards right now, excepting maybe Banks.

    I'd do a Calderon + Banks or Evans trade for Barbosa yesterday. Calderon's a better shooter and passer, but Barbosa is a better slasher, defender and rebounder and has less years on his contract.

    Though if Phoenix is serious about shedding salary, they won't want Calderon's salary in return, especially since they already have Nash and Dragic. Also, no way they take on Turk.

    Barbosa + filler for Evans and Banks??? Depends on the level of desperation, I guess, but the Suns could surely get a better deal than that.
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    Quote Hassan wrote: View Post
    how's his defence?
    Better than Jose's lol. The above assessment pretty much nails it. Barbosa isn't great defensively, but his speed makes up for mistakes. When someone blows by Jose the plays done, with Barbosa he goes step for step.

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    Barbosa's not a PG. Why do you guys always want to jump on these undersized shooting guards? It boggles my mind. Yes, he's quick, yes, he can score. But he's not a PG. You don't want him starting, and last time I checked, the Raptors are fine at backup PG.

    Enough with these half-assed "solutions" that don't actually solve any problems. Just because a guy is available doesn't mean the Raptors should suddenly look at him.

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    Made an account just to post in this thread, lol. I've read this site quite a bit, just never bothered to make an account.

    Steve Nash (and therefore Suns fan by default) and Raptors fan. Barbosa is a salary dump. Why the hell would the Suns want any of the Raptors' backup guards if they don't have minutes anymore for their former sixth man? Taking Calderon back would be a joke. Banks might crack the rotation as defensive guard, as second guard off the bench. Evans might crack the rotation as the second big off the bench.

    I don't even think the Raptors need him. Like Tim says, the Raptors have backup PG filled and he's slightly undersized at the 2. He's a solid scorer and is an average defender. So he helps shore up where they're already mediocre.

    Just saying.

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    Could be a good combo-guard for us with his ability to push the ball and create a few plays. I'd actually love to see how he fits on either Boston or Toronto.

    Off-topic: Did anyone else think Marcus Banks played pretty well as a back-up for Jack when Calderon was out? I thought he was good defensivly and had some sparks on offense.

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    Also registered just to reply to this thread. I think Barbosa might be worth a shot, only if:
    1. We trade either Calderon or Jack in the deal, or in another deal
    2. We end up keeping Hedo.

    If these things happen, you can start Barbosa at PG, have Hedo run the offense, and have either Jack or Calderon with the 2nd squad, where they are arguably most effective. It may be a long shot, and he may not work out. We wouldn't have to live with it for long, though, with his 2 year deal. If we keep Hedo, we don't need a traditional PG. We need someone to defend the position, and the "Blur" is arguably a better defender than either Jack or Jose.

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    Quote Hassan wrote: View Post
    how's his defence?
    he's noit lazy. let's put it that way.
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    Quote Tim W. wrote: View Post
    Barbosa's not a PG. Why do you guys always want to jump on these undersized shooting guards? It boggles my mind. Yes, he's quick, yes, he can score. But he's not a PG. You don't want him starting, and last time I checked, the Raptors are fine at backup PG.

    Enough with these half-assed "solutions" that don't actually solve any problems. Just because a guy is available doesn't mean the Raptors should suddenly look at him.
    Barbosa CAN play backup PG, especially with someone like Turk on the floor. What I'm saying is that if we can somehow turn Calderon into Barbosa, it should be done, if only for the durations of the contracts involved. While Calderon > Barbosa, paying Barbosa for 2 years > paying Calderon for 4.

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    Unless a third team involved, I don't see why a team with Steve Nash and Goran Dragic want any part of Calderon, even without his shitty contract.

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    Quote DonCarlos wrote: View Post
    Not stellar, but quick and with quick hands and probably would be the best defender among the Raptors guards right now, excepting maybe Banks.

    I'd do a Calderon + Banks or Evans trade for Barbosa yesterday. Calderon's a better shooter and passer, but Barbosa is a better slasher, defender and rebounder and has less years on his contract.

    Though if Phoenix is serious about shedding salary, they won't want Calderon's salary in return, especially since they already have Nash and Dragic. Also, no way they take on Turk.

    Barbosa + filler for Evans and Banks??? Depends on the level of desperation, I guess, but the Suns could surely get a better deal than that.
    ya the want a back up centre so maybe we would have to give up alabi and banks plus pick for barbosa an thats a little to much

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    Quote Hassan wrote: View Post
    how's his defence?
    Exactly - The Suns are evolving into a defense orientated team. Hence the parting of the ways with Amar'e and now wanting to dump Captain Barboosa okay the hoops guy spells it Barbosa but close enough for Hollywood revisionism

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    why dont we consider playing weems at the point and hedo at the 3 so weems would not have to handle the ball that much and can just play defense/ shoot j's

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    Quote DonCarlos wrote: View Post
    Barbosa CAN play backup PG, especially with someone like Turk on the floor. What I'm saying is that if we can somehow turn Calderon into Barbosa, it should be done, if only for the durations of the contracts involved. While Calderon > Barbosa, paying Barbosa for 2 years > paying Calderon for 4.
    I have three questions.

    1. Does trading for Barbosa give the Raptors the starting PG that everyone wants?

    2. Does trading for Barbosa help the Raptors long term?

    3. Is trading for Barbosa a good step towards making the Raptors a contender in the short term?

    No, no and no. In other words, there's no real point.

    Barbosa is another bandaid that would help make the Raptors compete a little more, but wouldn't give the Raptors anything they actually NEED. He's a guy that would look good to season ticketholders who simply want entertaining and fairly competitive games. I'm not interested in the Raptors striving for mediocrity. Maybe you guys are.

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    If hedon't is shouldering all of the point duties than maybe that wouldn't be such a bad idea of having Weems at the 1 DeRozan at the 2 and Jerkolou at the 3.

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