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Thread: According to MSNBC the Raptors Are "Very Interested" in Barbosa

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    Quote Tim W. wrote: View Post
    Barbosa is another bandaid that would help make the Raptors compete a little more, but wouldn't give the Raptors anything they actually NEED. He's a guy that would look good to season ticketholders who simply want entertaining and fairly competitive games.
    Great point! I am a Barbosa fan and he probably could help the Raptors a little bit in the interim but in the grand scheme it would just be a lateral move.

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    Quote Tim W. wrote: View Post
    I have three questions.

    1. Does trading for Barbosa give the Raptors the starting PG that everyone wants?

    2. Does trading for Barbosa help the Raptors long term?

    3. Is trading for Barbosa a good step towards making the Raptors a contender in the short term?

    No, no and no. In other words, there's no real point.

    Barbosa is another bandaid that would help make the Raptors compete a little more, but wouldn't give the Raptors anything they actually NEED. He's a guy that would look good to season ticketholders who simply want entertaining and fairly competitive games. I'm not interested in the Raptors striving for mediocrity. Maybe you guys are.
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    yeah i definately dont want barbosa.. enough with the combo guard garbage barbosa looks great in transition and has a pretty good shot but hes a ball hog who prefers to run the court himself. As well shouldnt BC be looking to dump our overpaid overrated players for cap relief I dont want to hear any rumours about us acquiring players only where the eff turkoglu and calderon are going..

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    Quote TRX wrote: View Post
    Why the hell would the Suns want any of the Raptors' backup guards if they don't have minutes anymore for their former sixth man?
    Plus, until something actually happens, it's best to dismiss this as simply another case of Toronto being linked to every single international player by the media. And this time, an international player who used to play for BC.

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    Banks can be a spark. I have seen him up close enough to know what he is about. He can drive, but he cannot create, nor can he shoot consistently.
    On defense, he is aggressive to a fault. Gets caught out of position, and had issues playing within the system.
    With a little more Basketball IQ, he could do damage.

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    Quote Tim W. wrote: View Post
    Barbosa's not a PG. Why do you guys always want to jump on these undersized shooting guards? It boggles my mind. Yes, he's quick, yes, he can score. But he's not a PG. You don't want him starting, and last time I checked, the Raptors are fine at backup PG.

    Enough with these half-assed "solutions" that don't actually solve any problems. Just because a guy is available doesn't mean the Raptors should suddenly look at him.
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    The Raptors don't need him but if he's the best player they can get in a trade by a significant margin then sign me up. In a rebuild you need to stockpile talent. You can later use that talent to fill holes when you're ready to seriously compete.

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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    The Raptors don't need him but if he's the best player they can get in a trade by a significant margin then sign me up. In a rebuild you need to stockpile talent. You can later use that talent to fill holes when you're ready to seriously compete.
    i hate rebuilds.They almost never work the clippers have been in rebuild for ever now, though they are better now but hardly close to a title

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    Only real value in getting Barbosa is that he is a better trade asset than Evans or Banks. Maybe even as early as the next trade deadline.

    That said - Evans & Banks for Barbosa + Clark(*) is a bad trade for the Raps imo. Two expiring contracts is a lot to give up for a marginal improvement.

    (*) no way Phoenix gives us Dudley

    Which is to say that decent trades (imo) would include:

    Evans & Banks FOR Barbosa & Dudley

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    Evans & Bellinelli FOR Barbosa & lottery protected pick

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    I don't see how Barbosa can play with Hedo in the same time, both needs the ball in hands to be effective. If we trade Hedo for Barboasa, then I would do it just to get rid of Hedo . I don't believe Barbosa will improve Raptors at all, is going to be just an band aid solution at most, the worst can happen is to have Barbosa eating minutes that Young Gunz may have. But we need to get rid of one of 3 PG as well.

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    Quote Hassan wrote: View Post
    i hate rebuilds.They almost never work the clippers have been in rebuild for ever now, though they are better now but hardly close to a title
    Rebuilds actually NEVER work if they're done badly, which they relates directly to the Clippers. Rebuilding done well works a lot of the time.

    What absolutely won't work is for the Raptors to assume that if they get a good veteran or two in exchange for Bosh and maybe Turkoglu, they will be anything but a mediocre team yet again.

    Really, what's far worse that rebuilding is years of mediocrity. Rebuilding done right gives fans hope. Dooming a team to mediocrity is death to any hope of contending in the near future.

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    Quote Hassan wrote: View Post
    i hate rebuilds.They almost never work the clippers have been in rebuild for ever now, though they are better now but hardly close to a title
    Sure they work. It all depends on who's making the decisions. The Clippers have a horrible owner. Portland has done an excellent rebuild. Look at how Oklahoma has been built. The Hawks rebuild looks great, they're good for another five to ten years if they can keep the core together. Then you have the Jazz, who did a fairly substantial rebuild with Stockton and Malone exiting. The Nuggets have been fairly successful in a rebuild project. Colangelo sort of rebuild the Suns on the fly when he took over and they've been fairly strong ever since. The Mavs did a complete rebuild when Cuban bought the team and they've been very strong since. The Wiz had moderate success with a rebuild around Gil, Jamison and Butler before it crumbled. The Pistons did a great rebuild early last decade and won a championship. There are many great stories of fairly successful rebuilds. It's all about management and a little luck.

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    nope we dont need any more combo-guards or defensive lacking players anymore......now is a good a time as ever to switch our philosophy by not allowing any more pylons on our team even though he may be a quick pylon

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