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Thread: ESPN: Raptors Will Insist on Noah, Not Settle for Deng

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    Quote Realist wrote: View Post
    It's not Bargs job to bang, that was Bosh's, even in the media he said how he really played centre out there, because he did. But Bosh is an attention whore diva, who's scared of contact and who quit on this team the last few weeks of the season, so it doesn't surprise me.

    No Noah, no Chicago. Sorry Bulls and greedy RuPaul. Houston/Miami/New York, your move.
    It was Bosh's job to bang and he did, but yet he's afraid of contact?

    I hope the Raps centre next year takes it upon himself to do the work required of him.

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    It was Bosh's job to bang and he did, but yet he's afraid of contact?

    I hope the Raps centre next year takes it upon himself to do the work required of him.
    He banged horribly, he's afraid of contact. How many times at the end of games did you see him shoot jumpers instead of attacking? What about that time at the end of this passed season where he missed that "lay-up" because he went up soft.

    He's a joke. He deserves the MLE at most. Amar'e is better than Bosh, hell, Boozer is better than Bosh, 20/13 in the playoffs, Bosh got owned by Mikki Moore because he's overrated and would rather make faces at his family across the court than pay attention to crucial games.

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    This is great news. BC will earn much respect if he can pull this off and get Noah back. And if he does, I will actually watch Raptors basketball this upcoming season.

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    realist: Apparently, either every GM in the league is an idiot, or you are. I have my suspicion as to which.

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    It's funny to watch the post-mortem of Bosh's game this season. I've heard that he didn't defend, he didn't bang inside, he didn't do this or he didn't do that. On a better team, maybe you'd have a point, but on the RAPS last season? I'm sorry, they may have had many problems but a 24/10 guy who regularly drew double-teams was NOT one of those problems.

    Based on his performance last season, if I had to pick one point of criticism of Bosh it's that when he drew the double-team underneath, he held onto the ball too long and was too slow kicking it back out to the open man on the perimeter.

    Even so, he was far and away the best player on the team.

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    Quote Realist wrote: View Post
    He banged horribly, he's afraid of contact. How many times at the end of games did you see him shoot jumpers instead of attacking? What about that time at the end of this passed season where he missed that "lay-up" because he went up soft.

    He's a joke. He deserves the MLE at most. Amar'e is better than Bosh, hell, Boozer is better than Bosh, 20/13 in the playoffs, Bosh got owned by Mikki Moore because he's overrated and would rather make faces at his family across the court than pay attention to crucial games.
    He banged horribly but was a 10 board a game player and was often the only player underneath the boards (outside of Amir). He's afraid of contact but yet went to the line over 600 times? Who on the Raptors team attacked the rim more than Bosh? FT's are a solid indicator of a player that gets to the rim. He did indeed miss a chippie in the G.S. game, so if that is the strength of your argument, good job.

    If he deserves the MLE at most what do the rest of the Raptors roster deserve?lol

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    I was in line with this, too, but the fact that they could get someone like Haywood (or someone in a trade/salary dump) to replace him makes the prospect of Chicago trading him away a little more plausible. I certainly don't think it's likely, but if Chicago starts feeling like it's on the outside looking in on the free agent front, they may get desperate. Do they want a repeat of what happened the last time they had tons of cap room and they were left with Ron Mercer, instead of Tracy McGrady and Grant Hill?
    I actually like Haywood, but he's not in Noah's class. I think Rose is pretty tight with Noah, I just can't fathom them making an almost lateral move trading Noah for Bosh. While Bosh is in the upper tier of offensive PF's who expend more effort twittering than defending, the difference between paying Bosh 130 million and offering Boozer 100 million is fairly negligible and if you can have Boozer over Bosh and keep Noah you do that 10 times out of ten.

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    Noah is a long shot. Having said that Houston is the only comparable option. Aaron Brooks and Battier. That all I would need. Shane would be a great influence on the Yun Gunz, a great defender and great locker room glueguy.
    BC lamented the loss of Parker's glue qualities. Shane would fill that void.
    Plus, Battier might be U.S Prez some day (I have read he is considering politics in the future). Perhaps he could pass some law that gives the Raps the Right of First Refusal on all free agents. (Im just kidding. Dont flame me.)

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    unless lebron or wade says the only way they are going to chicago is if they get bosh then they would definately give us noah but i could see them just settling for boozer

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    Quote EarthJuice wrote: View Post
    Noah is a long shot. Having said that Houston is the only comparable option. Aaron Brooks and Battier. That all I would need. Shane would be a great influence on the Yun Gunz, a great defender and great locker room glueguy. BC lamented the loss of Parker's glue qualities. Shane would fill that void.
    I suggested the same logic a while back, and Battier would be great, but I'm not sure if Aaron Brooks is enough. He's a quick scoring PG which we've been missing the last few years, but he's still more of a change-of-pace guy than a legit starter, mainly because he doesn't create enough for his teammates.

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    Quote mo-sales wrote: View Post
    I actually like Haywood, but he's not in Noah's class. I think Rose is pretty tight with Noah, I just can't fathom them making an almost lateral move trading Noah for Bosh. While Bosh is in the upper tier of offensive PF's who expend more effort twittering than defending, the difference between paying Bosh 130 million and offering Boozer 100 million is fairly negligible and if you can have Boozer over Bosh and keep Noah you do that 10 times out of ten.
    I'm not arguing the merits of trading Noah for Bosh. I certainly wouldn't do it if I was CHicago. I agree Haywood isn't as good as Noah, but in Chicago's mind, if they are running out of choices, and the only way they can get one of the top free agents is to trade Noah and then sign Haywood, I can see hem going that way. The nighmare of ending up with Mercer last time, and lots of years of losing, is probably fresh in the mind of Reinsdorf. Bosh and Haywood certainly look better on paper than Noah and Gibson. And I like both Noah and Gibson.

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    Quote Tim W. wrote: View Post
    If the Bulls can't get Amare or Boozer (who we haven't heard much about, lately), then the question is will they be desperate enough to trade away Noah for Bosh. They could then sign Brandan Hayward to replace Noah, so it might not be that bad a deal, for them.
    wow, he can fish adn play centre in the nba i had no idea.



    as far as bosh wanting all the money he can get why does he need this extra thirty mill. like he's already going to make multi-millions a year and what has happened to all the money he has he must have some hefty bills.
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    Quote LBF wrote: View Post
    wow, he can fish adn play centre in the nba i had no idea.



    as far as bosh wanting all the money he can get why does he need this extra thirty mill. like he's already going to make multi-millions a year and what has happened to all the money he has he must have some hefty bills.
    Didn't he split with that one chuck with the big foreheard? Probably paying her off to keep something quiet.

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    Quote LBF wrote: View Post
    wow, he can fish adn play centre in the nba i had no idea.


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    I agree 100%. I would not give Noah. Let Wade stay in Miami, Toronto will have to settle for Houston's offer; LeBron -I guess NY; Chiacago can get Boozer-without giving up anybody.
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    Don't scare me. we will take Deng, just don't want to keep Bosh.

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    thats the way BC should of stated in the first place for bosh. why the hell would we allow the busll to give away their trash to us for a star player anyway it doesnt make any sence for me its either noah or off to houston

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    Quote Sly wrote: View Post
    I'm sure many feel the same way I do. I would MUCH, MUCH, MUCH rather have Noah on the team then Bosh.
    I doubt many would feel that way unless you precede that statement with "At their respective salaries and assuming we keep Bargnani," ...

    Otherwise that's silly.

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    Quote Mapko wrote: View Post
    Don't scare me. we will take Deng, just don't want to keep Bosh.
    You'd rather have Deng than Bosh? Unless Bosh has suddenly stopped being one of the top 15 players in the league, or Deng has become one of them, that is a truly ridiculous thing to say.

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    Quote Brain Colangelo wrote: View Post
    I doubt many would feel that way unless you precede that statement with "At their respective salaries and assuming we keep Bargnani," ...

    Otherwise that's silly.
    Ya, this Bosh hate is getting out of hand and completely clouding people's judgements. As a return on a sign and trade, Noah would be beyond expectations, but to say you'd rather have Noah OVER Bosh shows you're simply not thinking clearly on this issue.

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