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    Default Chicago Tribune: The Latest Regarding Bosh & The Bulls

    This from K.C. Johnson from the Chicago Tribune and the latest (11:30am central time, so 12:30pm eastern time) on what the Bulls are offering Toronto in a sign-and-trade for Bosh:

    The Raptors have made clear their desire for Joakim Noah in sign-and-trade talks with the Bulls, who have resisted those efforts. The Bulls have proposed a package involving Taj Gibson, multiple first-round draft picks and a trade exception.
    Yay or Nay?

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    Taj Gibson: 25 yr old rookie forward, 225 lb, 6-9.

    Not exactly dazzling numbers in his first season. Would he be adding to the crowd of youth at PF? What's his upside? He's only a year younger than Bosh.

    For that matter, what 1st round draft picks does Chicago have to offer?

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    Quote Doc Naismith wrote: View Post
    Yay or Nay?
    I would say Nay. The Raptors are set at PF and assuming the Bulls would be a good-to-great team with Bosh, then the 1st round picks would be mid-late in the round, rather than high lottery picks. Gibson wouldn't even have that much value in a secondary deal, IMO.

    It's hard to address each S&T rumor on its own though, because to properly evaluate them, we'd need to know the details of each deal (and subsequent deals) to compare them. This one looks bad to me, but could be alright, depending on what other offers are out there for the Raps.

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    I like Gibson and all, but he's not the type of impact player that Noah is. He's a good role-player, but will never be the type of guy that fuels or inspires an entire team. We need that defensive anchor that is Joakim Noah.

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    A big fat NAY! A redundant role player and useless 1st rounders....no thanks.

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    Quote Doc Naismith wrote: View Post
    This from K.C. Johnson from the Chicago Tribune and the latest (11:30am central time, so 12:30pm eastern time) on what the Bulls are offering Toronto in a sign-and-trade for Bosh:



    Yay or Nay?

    Source - Click here
    I say NAY... I like Gibson's game, played well last year but as CalgaryRapsFan said, the Raps are set at the PF position (Davis, Johnson, Evans and on occassion Bargs). Raps truly need a defensive centre so Noah will have to be included.

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    Raps need a young pg

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    Nay.

    Let the Bulls convince Bosh to pay $30M to play with their franchise.

    At this point, I also don't want Bosh back with the Raps at full-max money.

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    Quote James Ballswin (Realizar) wrote: View Post
    Nay.

    Let the Bulls convince Bosh to pay $30M to play with their franchise.

    At this point, I also don't want Bosh back with the Raps at full-max money.
    I agree.

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    If Bosh chooses the Bulls and they stand firm on not trading Noah then I say yes. It will clog the PF slot but maybe they can get a third team on board who is interested in Gibson? If that were the case they could flip Gibson there, get something else back for him and still land the picks and the TPE. That's not bad for a S&T considering there is a thread in here with great support suggesting they should just let Bosh walk because people don't care anymore.

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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    If Bosh chooses the Bulls and they stand firm on not trading Noah then I say yes. It will clog the PF slot but maybe they can get a third team on board who is interested in Gibson? If that were the case they could flip Gibson there, get something else back for him and still land the picks and the TPE. That's not bad for a S&T considering there is a thread in here with great support suggesting they should just let Bosh walk because people don't care anymore.
    If they are not trading Noah, nay! We can't afford to give Bosh his $30 million and create a dynasty for the Chicago Bulls..Big fat nay!

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    Other than their own picks (which won't amount to much considering how good they're likely to be), the Bulls own Charlotte's 1st round pick. This might sound like a good opportunity for the Raptors, but the pick is well-protected until 2016! The Bulls have already traded away their second round picks in 2011 and 2012. So this sign & trade doesn't hold a lot of appeal - but I guess you take what you can get unless it's a contract like Deng's that bogs us down for years. In that case, Toronto should just walk away from the table.

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    I liked Taj Gibson a lot more before we acquired Ed Davis. In fact I loved the whole idea of him coming here.

    But now, as hard as this may be to a team about to lose Bosh, I think PF is a position of strength.

    Without Noah, I have no interest in Chicago anymore (though I do like J.Johnson on his own potential merits). If I had to choose between having Noah or Bosh on my team, I would take Noah every time.

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    no more forwards ! i just want joakim noah in a raptors uniform

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    Perspective: if Chicago signs Bosh and Wade, with Rose and Noah in the fold, that first round pick will be late 20s every year for the next 4-5 years.
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    smart move by colangelo..

    taking anybody besides noah or rose would be downright babcockian... stacking other eastern conference teams while you get worse is just stupid

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    Quote ebrian wrote: View Post
    Perspective: if Chicago signs Bosh and Wade, with Rose and Noah in the fold, that first round pick will be late 20s every year for the next 4-5 years.
    here are some players not drafted in the top 15 ? hmmm how many of these would be starters on the raps ??

    draft pick player

    20 j nelson
    17 granger
    30 david lee
    56 amir johnson
    57 gortat
    21 rondo
    47 millsap
    23 w. chandler
    26 aaron brooks
    48 m gasol
    25 batum
    26 george hill
    24 serge ibaka
    39 weems
    21 d collison
    Last edited by karim_nasir; Tue Jul 6th, 2010 at 04:12 PM.

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    Quote karim_nasir wrote: View Post
    here are some players not drafted in the top 15 ? hmmm how many of these would be starters on the raps ??

    draft pick player

    20 j nelson
    17 granger
    30 david lee
    56 amir johnson
    57 gortat
    21 rondo
    47 millsap
    23 w. chandler
    26 aaron brooks
    48 m gasol
    25 batum
    26 george hill
    24 serge ibaka
    39 weems
    21 d collison
    Maybe for comparison sake, you could list the other players chosen so we can get an idea of how many players chosen out of the top 15 don't turn out well. There's probably not that many, are there?

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    No Noah, No Bosh plain and simple

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