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OFFICIAL: Bosh Signing With Miami (No Sign-and-Trade?)
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Reading on the Stan Van Gundy interview - he's awesome!
SVG: Yeah and Kevin Durant is more in the Kobe Bryant mode. You don’t hear Kobe Bryant and certainly not Kevin Durant talking about their brand. They don’t. I hear that from the other guys. I don’t hear those guys talking about their brand, they’re simply basketball players who want to be great players and win games. Not that those other guys aren’t great players and don’t want to win games. They do, but there’s also more to it. It’s not what I like. Other people, I guess, like it. I’m sure it will be a widely watched show tomorrow. It simply will not have me as an audience.
R. Chris Bosh made his announcement on ESPN. Said he’s joining Wade.
SVG: Well, he’s been following him around for two weeks like his lapdog. So that doesn’t really surprise me.
He's right, Kobe signed an extension as well as Durant without a parade. The league will get that extra motivation to face them every night. If LeBron joins them, they will earn every dollar for the way other teams, including their old teams to go after them with much gusto. The league just got more interesting. The Raps really need to look at OKC as a team. I know they have Durant maybe we will have our DeRozan someday. Who knows?“The saving of our world from pending doom will come, not through the complacent adjustment of the conforming majority, but through the creative maladjustment of a nonconforming minority.” - Martin Luther King
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And look, karim, with all due respect, you obviously haven't been reading the posts.
Miami wants to sign Bosh for x amount of dollars for x amount of years. Bosh agrees. Bosh can then take this contract proposal to the Raptors and say, "If you want anything out of this, anything at all, write me up a S&T contract for the same amount of dollars over the same amount of years."
This costs Miami nothing. Nothing.
It's that simple, and I think you need to calm yourself down a little. Or learn more about what you're writing.
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We can argue all we want until we turn blue. One thing is for sure, Bosh's knees will go before he's 30. Miami will be so grateful for not signing that 6th year.“The saving of our world from pending doom will come, not through the complacent adjustment of the conforming majority, but through the creative maladjustment of a nonconforming minority.” - Martin Luther King
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I keep seeing people blaming BC for surrounding Bosh with "Euro junk" and that with that supporting cast Bosh was never going to be a winner and would of course eventually leave.Has it not crossed anyones mind that he did it knowing that a euro does not hold the same issues with playing in Canada?,and not because he prefers them?
You play with the cards you are dealt, rightly or wrongly, most NBA players given a choice prefer playing in the USA.
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jeff_hostetler wrote: View PostAnd look, karim, with all due respect, you obviously haven't been reading the posts.
Miami wants to sign Bosh for x amount of dollars for x amount of years. Bosh agrees. Bosh can then take this contract proposal to the Raptors and say, "If you want anything out of this, anything at all, write me up a S&T contract for the same amount of dollars over the same amount of years."
This costs Miami nothing. Nothing.
It's that simple, and I think you need to calm yourself down a little. Or learn more about what you're writing.
do you get it ?
you said it costs miami nothing ? well it does... the trade exceptions that you want toronto to get which to you are soooo valuable is what miami would be losing ? '
that is a cost ? now after reading this who do you think should learn more about what they're writing which you said in your last post ?
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jeff_hostetler wrote: View PostAnd look, karim, with all due respect, you obviously haven't been reading the posts.
This costs Miami nothing. Nothing.
It's that simple, and I think you need to calm yourself down a little. Or learn more about what you're writing.
lol
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karim_nasir wrote: View Postlosing the trade ecxception is a a cost ? do you agree with that ? when you give up $10 for a book. that book costs you $10 ? right ?
lol
Miami doesn't have a trade exception to 'give up'. They will create one only if they do a S & T with the Raptors for Bosh.Two beer away from being two beers away.
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Actually...
Actually, Karim, a Trade Exception is NOT a cost. Not directly, anyhow. If I send you a player worth $16mil, and you send me a player worth $6mil (which would require you to be under the cap), I would get a $10mil Trade Exception. You would have no say whatsoever in it, it would be automatic because the salaries do not match up (which is why you have to be under the cap).
That being said, it is a cost indirectly in two ways: 1) You need to give me SOMETHING back in return (it could be a pick... I don't know about cash though); 2) It would help improve the other team, which is mainly relevant if they are in the same conference as you (unless you expect to meet them in the finals).
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LC009 wrote: View PostActually, Karim, a Trade Exception is NOT a cost. Not directly, anyhow. If I send you a player worth $16mil, and you send me a player worth $6mil (which would require you to be under the cap), I would get a $10mil Trade Exception. You would have no say whatsoever in it, it would be automatic because the salaries do not match up (which is why you have to be under the cap).
That being said, it is a cost indirectly in two ways: 1) You need to give me SOMETHING back in return (it could be a pick... I don't know about cash though); 2) It would help improve the other team, which is mainly relevant if they are in the same conference as you (unless you expect to meet them in the finals).
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Karim. Again, think about what you're arguing before getting so uppity about it.
A team signs a player for 15 million dollars.
Total cost: 15 million dollars
A team receives a player, whose salary is 15 million dollars, from another team.
Total cost: 15 million dollars.
What Miami gives to Toronto in a S&T is the cap space equivalent to the player's salary they receive. Because Miami is under the cap, they can absorb salary (Bosh). The difference between what's coming in and what's going out is called a Traded Player Exception. This is what Toronto would receive in a S&T. The cost to Miami is the same: Bosh's contract. They don't lose a traded player exception, because TPEs only manifest themselves during a trade. No trade, no TPE to begin with.
Miami doesn't lose a TPE because without a trade they would never have one to lose.
Got it?
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jeff_hostetler wrote: View PostKarim. Again, think about what you're arguing before getting so uppity about it.
A team signs a player for 15 million dollars.
Total cost: 15 million dollars
A team receives a player, whose salary is 15 million dollars, from another team.
Total cost: 15 million dollars.
What Miami gives to Toronto in a S&T is the cap space equivalent to the player's salary they receive. Because Miami is under the cap, they can absorb salary (Bosh). The difference between what's coming in and what's going out is called a Traded Player Exception. This is what Toronto would receive in a S&T. The cost to Miami is the same: Bosh's contract. They don't lose a traded player exception, because TPEs only manifest themselves during a trade. No trade, no TPE to begin with.
Miami doesn't lose a TPE because without a trade they would never have one to lose.
Got it?
do you get it ?
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jeff_hostetler wrote: View PostKarim. Again, think about what you're arguing before getting so uppity about it.
A team signs a player for 15 million dollars.
Total cost: 15 million dollars
A team receives a player, whose salary is 15 million dollars, from another team.
Total cost: 15 million dollars.
What Miami gives to Toronto in a S&T is the cap space equivalent to the player's salary they receive. Because Miami is under the cap, they can absorb salary (Bosh). The difference between what's coming in and what's going out is called a Traded Player Exception. This is what Toronto would receive in a S&T. The cost to Miami is the same: Bosh's contract. They don't lose a traded player exception, because TPEs only manifest themselves during a trade. No trade, no TPE to begin with.
Miami doesn't lose a TPE because without a trade they would never have one to lose.
Got it?
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