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    Default Hollinger Explains Why Miami Need the S&T with Toronto

    Here's Hollinger's take on things and why something will likely be worked out between the Raptors and Heat especially if LeBron goes there too.

    Via ESPN Insider:

    Where the major benefit comes is over time. It's likely that both players will sign six-year deals, and over those six years the Heat should be able to significantly improve the talent around Wade and Bosh via draft picks, signing players with their cap exceptions and adding low-priced veterans who want to play for a winner. If the cap rules stay the same in the new collective bargaining agreement, in 2011 the Heat could add as many as four rotation players with their first-round pick, another from Toronto, their midlevel exception and their biannual exception.

    So, signing Wade and Bosh is an awesome move for the medium and long term. The question now is what else the Heat can add to make this a positive 2010 offseason. LeBron obviously would be the first choice, but if he stays in Cleveland, Miami will need to work out what else to do with about $12 million in leftover cap space. (This figure depends on where the league's new cap number is set Wednesday night.)

    One obvious alternative is to create more cap space by executing a sign-and-trade with Toronto for Bosh's services. Doing so would benefit all sides -- Bosh would get the six-year deal he seeks, Miami could build out its roster and drop the now-superfluous Michael Beasley, and Toronto could get a large trade exception to use for replenishing its roster.

    The question for the Heat is whether to use the sign-and-trade to add or subtract. Presumably they would want to send out Beasley, who plays the same position as Bosh and takes up $4.96 million of their cap space, but there has been tepid interest from other teams. Perhaps the Raptors would do it just to get the trade exception, especially because the Heat have most of the leverage now.

    Alternatively, Miami could use a sign-and-trade to build out some of its roster. It's unlikely the Heat would take Jose Calderon, who would swallow up $9 million in cap space, but Marco Belinelli might be a good addition at $2.4 million. The Heat have no other wing players at the moment, and including Belinelli also would increase the size of Toronto's trade exception. Jarrett Jack ($4.9 million) is another possibility.

    The reason for the Heat to build the roster out of Toronto's spare parts is that free agents are so expensive this year. In a market in which Chris Duhon and Steve Blake command $4 million a year, getting Belinelli for half that price is a screaming bargain. However, another possibility is to trade a future first-rounder for a player from another team -- such as one rumored deal that would send Mario Chalmers and a first-rounder to Portland for the not-exactly-gruntled Rudy Fernandez.

    If the Heat had Belinelli, Wade and Chalmers (a cap-friendly $847,000) in the backcourt along with a generic veteran backup signed for the minimum (Jason Williams?) and a scrappy rookie (such as second-round pick Da'Sean Butler), they would be OK on the perimeter.
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    That's from the Insider? Am I allowed to read that? Should I send you a loonie or something?

    About what I figured in terms of a S&T: Miami wants rid of Beasley, but they're not likely to take back any of our albatrosses or give up draft picks. The idea of taking away Marco and Jarrett is a new wrinkle, but not one I'd be happy to see the Raps play along with.

    As an aside, why is it that all these talking heads keep offering up what Chicago or Miami or New York should do, but they never say what would benefit the Raptors. Sure, we could give up Marco and take Beasley, and that might help Miami, but how in the world does it help US?

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    Default We Will see;

    Today at 1pm there is press conference free agent signing...we know it's amir johnson..which most raptor fans don't really care..We know Bryan Colangelo will be present..hopefully toronto media asks him about chris bosh and s & t...but knowing our media,useless..that might not happend.

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    Hollinger is a typical ESPN a**hole. ESPN hates the Raptors like they hate the Pistons. They have their favorites right now and the Heat are one of them. Screw Toronto is their attitude as long as it can help make our favorite teams better.

    ESPN should fall into the black hole of the universe. Oh wait a minute Bristol CT is already located in the black hole of the universe.
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    My buddy heard an interview with bosh/wade on espn radio yesterday and said they won't sign max contracts in order to create a deeper, more dominant bench. Uh oh...

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    Quote Nick wrote: View Post
    My buddy heard an interview with bosh/wade on espn radio yesterday and said they won't sign max contracts in order to create a deeper, more dominant bench. Uh oh...
    That makes sense.

    It will be interesting to see who becomes the primary ball handler. Something tells me it won't be Chalmers
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    Quote Buddahfan wrote: View Post
    That makes sense.

    It will be interesting to see who becomes the primary ball handler. Something tells me it won't be Chalmers
    i was going to try and do a stats sheet on the three amigos (in case lebron decides to sign with miami which i think he will) but im lazy by nature so......

    BUDDHA! can you do a stats sheet on potential shot distribution of the Miami Thrice? Coz if all three haul 20 shots a game when they were still franchise players, will 60 be manageable for them in the course of a game? We've seen in Boston how Pierce would score 20-30pts and KG will be left with only 10 pts and Allen almost the same. Is it possible that Bosh/Wade/LBJ get 20-30pts a nite?? Mind you there will be 6 other players in the roster who will shoot the ball too...

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    Quote tbihis wrote: View Post
    Mind you there will be 6 other players in the roster who will shoot the ball too...
    And the only time they'll shoot is either Varejao-style dumpoffs or Anthony Parker-style kickout 3's.
    Last edited by Mess; Thu Jul 8th, 2010 at 12:47 PM.

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    I'd rather the Raptors not give up Belinelli just to get a larger trade exception. I know people are down on him, but he's extremely talented and I think it's too early to give up on him, especially with only one year left on his contract.

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    Quote Tim W. wrote: View Post
    I'd rather the Raptors not give up Belinelli just to get a larger trade exception. I know people are down on him, but he's extremely talented and I think it's too early to give up on him, especially with only one year left on his contract.
    Yeah i agree, he showed flashes of awesomeness and then mostly dissapointment but i would be willing to bet he gets better this year and for 2.5 mil there is no harm in continuing to experiment with him.

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    Did you hack into the insider or something? Paying money for rumors and what not? no thanks

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    Quote Tim W. wrote: View Post
    I'd rather the Raptors not give up Belinelli just to get a larger trade exception. I know people are down on him, but he's extremely talented and I think it's too early to give up on him, especially with only one year left on his contract.
    I'd rather have Rudy Fernandez, but maybe that's just me.

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    Quote Quixotic wrote: View Post
    I'd rather have Rudy Fernandez, but maybe that's just me.
    If it was a choice, yes. But it doesn't appear to be a choice between one or the other, as far as I know.

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    Quote Quixotic wrote: View Post
    I'd rather have Rudy Fernandez, but maybe that's just me.
    same

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