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    Like when Colangelo was able to bring Dallas into the sign and trade for Turkoglu in order to add depth to the roster, it looks like more teams may be involved in the sign and trade for Bosh.

    Yet sources say that a four-team trade scenario between the Heat, Raptors, Bobcats and Rockets hatched on the eve of LeBron’s hour-long “Decision” special on ESPN would enable Toronto to bring back an asset or two in the wake of Chris Bosh’s departure but also avoid taking back Beasley. Which is believed to be the only sort of sign-and-trade that the Raptors would consider.

    The proposed deal, sources said, would send Beasley and Rockets forward Jared Jeffries to Charlotte, land Bobcats center Tyson Chandler in Houston and create sufficient cap space for Heat president Pat Riley to offer max-contract money to Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh and James.
    There's more to the story if anyone wants the whole read...
    http://proxy.espn.go.com/blog/trueho...-beasley-trade

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    who do we get???

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    Further down in the article:

    "One source with knowledge of Toronto’s thinking, however, insists that the four-team trade -- which would require Houston to send at least $3.1 million in salary to the Raptors -- is "not happening." Toronto continues to convey the message that it is a reluctant partner in any deal that makes Bosh’s departure more lucrative."

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    All the article says is that we'd get someone at more than 3.1 million from Houston, not named Jeffries. Who would that be? Ariza? Battier? Scola in a double S&T? Or a combination of lesser players?

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    Toronto, meanwhile, would come away with a very big trade exception and presumably at least one first-round pick … possibly its 2011 first-rounder that was previously dealt to Miami.
    That is what TO would get.

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    Meh, it'd be a lot more interesting if 1) it actually named a player we would receive, and 2) if we actually received an asset that fit our rebuilding.

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    If Houston is supposed to send us salary, and we could get our first rounder back.

    Could we potentially get that pick back from the heat, plus Jordan Hill from Houston, and another filler from Houston?

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    Quote The Mascot wrote: View Post
    If Houston is supposed to send us salary, and we could get our first rounder back.

    Could we potentially get that pick back from the heat, plus Jordan Hill from Houston, and another filler from Houston?
    why get Jordan Hill if we have many ... i many PF

    Ed Davis has more potential than Jordan Hill. BUT i really want Anthony Randolph >_<

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    Quote The Mascot wrote: View Post
    If Houston is supposed to send us salary, and we could get our first rounder back.

    Could we potentially get that pick back from the heat, plus Jordan Hill from Houston, and another filler from Houston?
    It all depends on what else moves in the trade, but yes, there's probably some configuration that could result in that. Not saying that it would happen, but it's possible. Two-team trades are tough enough to speculate on, let alone four-way trades.

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    Why doesn't anybody want Beasley?? He's like 21 only, and every year gets better. He's a number 2 Pick overall, so if we lose our number 4 pick, why don't we invest in a number 2 pick who had a better season than bosh did in his second year in the NBA! FML! I hate Colangelo. I think he's distant brothers with rob babcock

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    Quote JalenRose5 wrote: View Post
    Why doesn't anybody want Beasley?? He's like 21 only, and every year gets better. He's a number 2 Pick overall, so if we lose our number 4 pick, why don't we invest in a number 2 pick who had a better season than bosh did in his second year in the NBA! FML! I hate Colangelo. I think he's distant brothers with rob babcock
    He's a horrible defender, does little other than score, has real off court issues and might be stuck between the 3 and 4.

    Darko was a number 2 pick, as well, does that mean the Raptors should try and get him?

    And I'm not quite sure where you get that Beasley had a better 2nd season than Bosh did. Simply looking at PER, which is just stats, Bosh had a better season, and Bosh was also a better defender and didn't have any off court issues.

    I'd be fine with taking Beasley back if it mean unloading one of the Raptors contracts, but I see him as a slightly more athletic Glenn Robinson. A guy who really only does one thing well, and who will never be able to lead a contender, but who doesn't have the game to be a good role player.

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    Why would we want Jordan Hill?
    The Raptors already have Bargs, Amir, Ed, Alabi and Evans who will all need minutes at the 4/5, there won't be many left for Jordan Hill.
    Kyle Lowry you say? Now I'm excited.

    Either way, none of this happens. Raptors will take back trade exceptions and draft picks, I think Colangelo is gonna try and get all Sam Presti up in here.
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    From Doug Smith: "According to the president and general manager, there are “things under consideration” to get something in return for the departing all-star."

    He updated his blog about 10 minutes ago.

    http://thestar.blogs.com/raptors/

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    Is the fact that Colangelo doesn't want salary in return a signal that he understands the Raptors need to rebuild? I certainly hope so.

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    A trade exemption doesn't seem to signal that. That would signal that they are going to hijack an overpaid star from a floundering franchise and hope that he can gel with all the spare parts that BC is accumulating, maybe BC should go on A&E's hoarders.

    I'm starting to like the trade exemption more and more. The West is going to be full retard next year. Name three teams that you can guarantee will miss the playoffs, you can't. More than a couple teams are going to be eating pavement and looking to shed salary. Could Nash make the raps pretenders in the East?

    Portland could hit the cellar and potentially be shopping Roy...

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    Quote mo-sales wrote: View Post
    A trade exemption doesn't seem to signal that. That would signal that they are going to hijack an overpaid star from a floundering franchise and hope that he can gel with all the spare parts that BC is accumulating, maybe BC should go on A&E's hoarders.

    I'm starting to like the trade exemption more and more. The West is going to be full retard next year. Name three teams that you can guarantee will miss the playoffs, you can't. More than a couple teams are going to be eating pavement and looking to shed salary. Could Nash make the raps pretenders in the East?

    Portland could hit the cellar and potentially be shopping Roy...
    A trade exception could mean anything. They could hold onto it until the next draft and take on a player to get a draft pick, as Oklahoma and a couple of other teams did. They could use it to help a team dump salary in exchange for a draft pick or young player. They could simply want the trade exception because they didn't want salary back and wanted the draft pick(s), and have no intention of using it.

    As for Portland shopping Roy, I don't think they would be that stupid, but if Portland doesn't do well this year, they might very well be ready to deal.

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    Simple, if Houston throws in Ariza or Battier in the deal in the direction of the Raptors, the deal gets done.
    obviously that's not what they 're offering in the 3.5 million salary.

    Toronto would get Ariza or Battier , their first round pick back, plus a trade exception of around 7 millions or so;

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    Maybe get back Shane Battier as a player? He could mentor demar and sonny. We could then get rid of Turk...

    Does any body know if we could use the trade exemption to give away salary and get nothing in return? This way we could just give away turk for some picks or nothing at all.

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    Quote Dirk Diggler wrote: View Post
    Does any body know if we could use the trade exemption to give away salary and get nothing in return? This way we could just give away turk for some picks or nothing at all.
    No, that's how you get a Trade Exepction in the first place - give away salary and get none in return.

    To use it the Raptors give away no salary (the TPE) and get some back in return (or picks, I think).

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    Quote Dirk Diggler wrote: View Post
    Maybe get back Shane Battier as a player? He could mentor demar and sonny. We could then get rid of Turk...

    Does any body know if we could use the trade exemption to give away salary and get nothing in return? This way we could just give away turk for some picks or nothing at all.
    Trade Exceptions are used as a way of gaining salary, not giving it away. if you want to "give" Turk away for no salary, you have to trade him to a team that is under the cap by 9.8 million dollars.

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