The Lakers had one of the top three offensive threats in the game and were gifted a phenomenal big man, while having probably the best coach possible for their team and an owner who had no qualms with spending money. Boston had assets and turned them into three Hall-of-Famers who fit together well, just a little past their prime at the time. They also literally bought Rondo from the cost-cutting Suns.
I'm sure teams rebuilding the way OKC and Portland did happens more often than that, at least.
The Lakers got where they are by dumping their roster, opening up cap room and signing Shaq and drafting Kobe in one summer. Once you have your superstar, then the rest is a lot easier.
Boston got to where they are because Kevin McHale completely f**ked up in Minnesota and did Ainge a favour.
Of all the superstars, the clear majority were drafted by their team. Most NBA FInals MVPs and MVPs were drafted by their team (or traded for before they played). It's incredibly difficult to get a franchise player except through the draft, and it's incredibly difficult to do it if you're not one of the few desirable locations in the NBA.
Most fans actually don't want their team to rebuild. It's usually only the educated fans that do. Regular fans simply want to be able to go to a game and watch a competitive team. That's exactly why most teams don't like to rebuild. GMs don't like using the word because it scares fans. Fans pay lots of money to go watch games, and if they know a team is rebuilding, they won't spend the money. That's why Colangelo backtracked during the press conference when he mentioned rebuilding.
This was exactly the problem Cleveland had with LeBron and why he probably left. They surrounded him with veterans because they wanted him to win immediately, but they kept having to reload, and he never had consistency and few developed players.
Oklahoma City is such a great example of what to do because Durant is surrounded by players who will get better with him, not decline as he gets better and have to be replaced.
As for keeping the young players, you don't have to start winning immediately. That's a VERY short sighted solution. That's what Colangelo tried to do with Bosh. It doesn't work. The team has a few years before the young players have to be re-signed, and they don't necessarily have to be winning, but be in a good position to win in the future. If DeRozan sees the framework of a successful team, there will be no reason for him to go elsewhere.
http://twitter.com/STEIN_LINE_HQWolves/Heat also agree to unspecified swap of future first-round picks. Heat turned to 'Sota after four-way trade w/TOR, HOU, CHA dissolved
The Amare deal turned into a S & T, so who knows. There may be hope yet.
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I know Beasley's been almost unanimously panned in these parts, but wasn't he also seen as the cog to any S&T with Miami?
Now that he's out I'm feeling like the S&T is too...
The idea of developing young gunz sounds promising, however you guys forget to remember that all young players developed by Raptors deserted before they reach their potential (Damon, Vince, Tracy, Chris). The most important thing for Raptors is to get players that are committed to play in Toronto, not attention whores that are ready any time to bolt just to get a ring by pairing with others.
Can somebody tell me what "retooling" is? Does that mean since our biggest tool (Bosh) has just left, we're going to go out and recruit a new tool? I hear AI is looking to play again. He's a pretty big tool.
As far as I'm concerned, the Raps might as well start vacuuming up draft picks for the next couple of years and start building around the kids they've got. I'm tired of cheering for tools.
If that wasn't sarcasm, retooling is a compromise between rebuilding and contending. Constantly looking for bandaid solutions for the short term instead of trying to make solid moves with a long term view.
If it was, then yes, I agree. AI is a tool. :P
retooling means signing some meaningless FAs to give the illusion to some fans that we can compete.
retooling is taking a future of the team hostage and having no real plan to fix things.
If they were making a FA signing for show you would not be hearing about a guy who wasn't even playing NBA ball last season.
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http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/m...,4440538.storyHeat tying up loose ends with Chris Bosh, Mike Miller
The Heat also is finishing off a sign-and-trade agreement with the Toronto Raptors that will allow recently acquired power forward Chris Bosh to receive a six-year free-agent contract instead of the maximum five-year contract an outside free agent can receive. The Raptors, in turn, will receive a package of draft picks from the Heat and a trade exception of roughly $15 million.
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That's some good news to be sure.
I'm very curious as to what the various contracts are going to look like if the Heat are going to be able to afford to add Mike Miller to the mix.
edit: it's doubly good news if we get the pick that Miami reportedly swapped with Minny in getting rid of Beasley. Looking forward to finding out more about whether it's lottery protected, etc.
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The Beasley trade was for a second round pick.
Maybe Miami flips the 2nd rounder from the Beasley trade this way too? That may be a high 2nd rounder.
if the s&t does go through, i think it will be good because at least we got something for Bosh. But, really, who can we really get for $16 mil without overpaying? i mean there are probably a lot of players in the league who are worth $16 mil but realistically, who will want to join the Raptors who is now officially halfway through a rebuilding process? plus our massive tax and crazy weather? plus the notion that franchise players no matter how good they are cant win here?
i love this team and city, but its a fact that the Raptors cannot acquire but rather can only create their own superstars. Can somebody tell me who the Raps have acquired, throughout the years, who was a superstar or even borderline superstar while they were still in their prime or at least approaching it through a signing or even a trade?
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