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    Wow talk about Suns re-union, might as well sign Raja Bell and I hope BC acquires a draft pick from Bobcats. But I think Boris Diaw addresses rebounding, low-post d, gritty player, and he can play at 3. Solid pick-up with Barbosa and Diaw but we have a log-jam at 1 spot, we need a 3 and 5. Both of these guys have 2 years left on contract so it's not as bad as it sounds
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    Quote rev20002 wrote: View Post
    so to confirm we'd be gettting some of phoenix's trade excemption via the amare deal and using 9 from the 16 to sign diaw, that would leave 7 left over, plus whatever we get via the barbosa-hedo deal?
    No. what i'm suggesting is:

    1)Phoenix uses Amare TPE to get Hedo from us, which gives us a 2nd TPE worth around 9 Million.

    2)Raptors uses part of Chris Bosh TPE to acquire Barbosa from Suns, letting us have around 7.5-8 mil leftover from that (so at this point we have 1 TPE worth 7.5-8, and another TPE worth 9)

    3) Raptors usest he TPE worth 9 mil from the hedo trade to acquire Diaw, leaving us with the TPE worth 7.5 (Leftover from bosh).

    This is alot better than having 2 smaller TPEs imo

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    Quote ThaInfamouz wrote: View Post
    For the first time, BC is Pritchslapping(named after the former Portland TrailBlazers GM with lopsided draft trades and acquisitions - Kevin "Pritchslapping" Pritchard) another GM not the other way round like Riley did to him.. Kudos BC, you can now pop your collars and you just saved your job and reputation. . Anybody think that the TPE and some draft picks(to sweeten the pot) should be used to acquire Collison(PG of the future) and Posey(our starting defensive SF), we trade Jose for draft picks and we are good to go(What's more, we get a TPE with the difference back, approx. $9m in TPE(assuming Collison and Posey contracts are $8m in total))..

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    Quote f91ultra wrote: View Post
    No. what i'm suggesting is:

    1)Phoenix uses Amare TPE to get Hedo from us, which gives us a 2nd TPE worth around 9 Million.

    2)Raptors uses part of Chris Bosh TPE to acquire Barbosa from Suns, letting us have around 7.5-8 mil leftover from that (so at this point we have 1 TPE worth 7.5-8, and another TPE worth 9)

    3) Raptors usest he TPE worth 9 mil from the hedo trade to acquire Diaw, leaving us with the TPE worth 7.5 (Leftover from bosh).

    This is alot better than having 2 smaller TPEs imo
    ah i see what you are saying. i was thinking it was a hedo-barbosa trade and then phoenix would make the rest of the salary difference up via the tpe

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    I don't think we should grab Diaw. He isn't a game changer. I think we should just get someone similar but much cheaper.

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    You know its just a matter of time before Steve Nash will become a Raptor. When Colangelo likes players, he never lets them go out of his sight (unless they suck after he aquires them).

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    I personally think this means kleiza (unfortunately) will not be coming to raptors

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    Kleiza is coming because they signed him to offer sheet, plus we have nobady at 3 right now. Diaw is PF primary SF secondary

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    Quote f91ultra wrote: View Post
    I personally think this means kleiza (unfortunately) will not be coming to raptors
    I think he will. Why would Denver match an offer sheet when the player stated he doesnt want to play in Denver? Its not like they missed him last year

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    Wow talk about Suns re-union, might as well sign Raja Bell.I hope BC acquires at lest a 2nd round draft pick from Bobcats. But I think Boris Diaw addresses rebounding, low-post d, gritty player, and he can play at 3. Solid pick-up with Barbosa and Diaw but we have a log-jam at 1 & 4 spot, we need a 3 and 5. Both of these guys have 2 years left on contract so it's not as bad as it sounds. I would be happier if we could ship Calderon and expirings Banks and/or Reggie.

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    Depth chart if trades happen

    Ct - Bargnani/Alabi
    PF - Johnson/Davis
    SF - Diaw/Kleiza or maybe Kleiza/Diaw
    SG - DeRozan/Barbosa (Neither one whom can make threes)
    PG - Jack/Calderon

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    Quote Buddahfan wrote: View Post
    Depth chart if trades happen

    Ct - Bargnani/Alabi
    PF - Johnson/Davis
    SF - Diaw/Kleiza or maybe Kleiza/Diaw
    SG - DeRozan/Barbosa (Neither one whom can make threes)
    PG - Jack/Calderon

    Odd man out Weems?
    Forgetting Reggie Evans, Marcus Banks, Marco Belinelli all of them have guaranteed contracts for next year

    Have you watched Suns play? Barbosa can make threes and play PG

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    wtf...why is he using TPE on such worthless players.
    I like the hedo trade but getting Diaw for TPE is just awful...
    BC needs to use it later on in the season when teams with expectations are struggling!

    By adding Diaw you stop Weems development... Barbosa is fine but plz dont add Diaw especially if ur adding Kleiza to the mix (LOGJAM)

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    Yeah, it looks like the Raptors got Diaw as part of the deal with the Suns.

    The current roster for the 2010-2011 season:

    PG: Leandro Barbosa / Jarret Jack / Jose Calderon
    SG: Demar Derozan / Sonny Weems / Marco Belinelli
    SF: Linus Kleiza / Boris Diaw
    PF: Amir Johnson / Ed Davis / Reggie Evans
    C: Andrea Bargnani / Solomon Alabi

    That's not bad, although probably not good enough to make the playoffs. I'm not much of a Diaw fan, but he's a pretty good facilitator. I'm hoping that Colangelo will trade Calderon for a solid backup at the 5.

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    definately agree with you...BC is wasting TPE, fk -_-

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    Diaw only has one year left on his contract, which only contributes to further long-term financial flexibility. Obviously using part of the TPE diminishes some flexibility now, but it would've expired in a year and I doubt we would be able to use all of it (16 mill) to acquire just one player.
    So using part of the TPE in this scenario is not a bad thing, even if Diaw is not the greatest of players. At least he's serviceable and can play the SF position, which is where there is some lack of depth.

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    Yeaaaaa diawwwww!!! this guy bosh to school this year. He dropped 32 on us bosh was too slow and diaw was too skilled for him

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    Quote AllenL2R wrote: View Post
    Yeah, it looks like the Raptors got Diaw as part of the deal with the Suns.

    The current roster for the 2010-2011 season:

    PG: Leandro Barbosa / Jarret Jack / Jose Calderon
    SG: Demar Derozan / Sonny Weems / Marco Belinelli
    SF: Linus Kleiza / Boris Diaw
    PF: Amir Johnson / Ed Davis / Reggie Evans
    C: Andrea Bargnani / Solomon Alabi

    That's not bad, although probably not good enough to make the playoffs. I'm not much of a Diaw fan, but he's a pretty good facilitator. I'm hoping that Colangelo will trade Calderon for a solid backup at the 5.
    Not bad but Barbosa isn't a point guard. Don't get it twisted, he's a 2 guard in a point guard's body...just like Jameer Nelson.

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    Quote Buddahfan wrote: View Post
    Depth chart if trades happen

    Ct - Bargnani/Alabi
    PF - Johnson/Davis
    SF - Diaw/Kleiza or maybe Kleiza/Diaw
    SG - DeRozan/Barbosa (Neither one whom can make threes)
    PG - Jack/Calderon

    Odd man out Weems?
    I think they are trying to go for length, thats the only reason to bring in diaw. barbosa doesn't make any sense unless they are using him solely for his speed hoping he can stay infront of guards, kinda the way they used Lue to guard iverson.

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    Diaw and Barbosa have 2 years left on thier contarct, so rather than waiting for TPE to expire, it expires at the end of season, we can use servicables guys. So even if these guys don't work we don't waste our TPE and at worst we are going to be in a lottery for next 2 years

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