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Thread: Oh, Oh, Fox Sports Disses Amir Johnson

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    Default Oh, Oh, Fox Sports Disses Amir Johnson

    Winner: Mediocre big men

    Forget for a moment that Amar'e Stoudemire got $100 million from the Knicks and Carlos Boozer $80M from the Bulls. At least they're All-Stars. The real sign that big men are in short supply and teams had way too much money to spend is the deals signed by journeymen like Darko Milicic (pictured, $20 million from Timberwolves), Tyrus Thomas ($40M from Bobcats), Channing Frye ($30M from Suns), Drew Gooden ($32M from Bucks) and Amir Johnson ($34M from Raptors) to name a few. And if you don't know who Amir Johnson is, that's the point.
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    I have to agree that it seems like a lot of money for a guy who's done little in the NBA. Its a contract determined based on perceived potential. Here's to hoping Amir makes everybody remember his name.

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    I think most of us would agree it seemed to be a bit much to give for a guy that hasn't accomplished much yet, but he showed plenty of promise last season. None of the guys on that list has lived up to their billing but they were all top first round picks. I'm a little worried that with Jose now gone, is Amir going to be able to produce on the offensive end? Those two had a great pick n roll last year and I'm not certain Jarrett or possibly Leandro/Marcus can run it the same way.

    Only time will tell but I'm more than optimistic he can live up to the contract, he's got an excellent motor and wants to improve and isn't afraid to do the dirty work.
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    Yeah.. I don't really mind that statement, it is a big contract for a guy you don't see much of if you're not a Raptors fan.. He works hard, good guy.. I'm sure he'll do everything he can do earn that money and show everyone he deserved it.

    Although, Amir really did want to stay in Toronto.. Does anyone else think they could have negotiated a better deal?

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    For what it's worth, I read reports that Amir's contract is actually $30 mil, not $34 mil.

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    Quote Marz wrote: View Post
    For what it's worth, I read reports that Amir's contract is actually $30 mil, not $34 mil.
    ummm i dont think so lol
    Amir himself said it was 34

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    Its a good thing the article didnt mention that even Amir thought it was more than he was hoping!

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    amir's old contract with detroit had him makin 3.9 mil a year thats only a 3 mil raise he is a bit overpaid but not like others like varejao
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    It is big contract when you look around the league and see what other players are getting paid. As Apollo suggested this contract is based on perceived Potential that Amir has.

    The big question that I have regarding Amir is his ability to play longer , without committing fouls, while at the same time give the same intensity and hustle.

    Amir's game is all about hustle and energy and I personally do not think he can continue playing like that without fouling as much. It will be interesting to see how he makes a transition from a Garbage man with low expectation from to a first big off the bench with high expectations.

    I hope BC is right about Amir's potential and I hope he ends up playing like a 7 million dollar palyer for Raptor.

    If it does not happen, I can see BC fixing his mistake next summer and shipping Amir out. BC has been doing this for last 3 years and Amir will not be an exception.
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    hey you cant say that he's wrong, no way amir is worth that price in a million years and until he proves them wrong, hes gonna keep gettin hammered by everybody

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    Quote Raptor4Ever wrote: View Post
    It is big contract when you look around the league and see what other players are getting paid. As Apollo suggested this contract is based on perceived Potential that Amir has.

    The big question that I have regarding Amir is his ability to play longer , without committing foul, while at the same time give the same intensity and hustle.

    Amir's game is all about hustle and energy and I personally do not think he can continue playing like that without fouling as much. It will be interesting to see how he makes a transition from a Garbage men with low expectation to a first big off the bench with high expectations.

    I hope BC is right about Amir's potential and I hope he ends up playing like a 7 million dollar a palyer for Raptor.

    If it does not happen, I can see BC fixing his mistake next summer and shipping Amir out. BC has been doing this for last 3 years and Amir will not be an exception.
    I highly doubt his output will drop, especially given the fact his role will be increased. There's no way IMO that BC would ship Amir out after this season. He is still 23 after all, and still a project.
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    Quote Mack North wrote: View Post
    I highly doubt his output will drop, especially given the fact his role will be increased. There's no way IMO that BC would ship Amir out after this season. He is still 23 after all, and still a project.
    Without even considering anything else, his production has to increase based on the added minutes. It will be interesting to see how efficient he is when asked to play a bigger role in the offense.

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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    Without even considering anything else, his production has to increase based on the added minutes. It will be interesting to see how efficient he is when asked to play a bigger role in the offense.
    Great Point. His numbers should be up but it is his efficiency that is more interesting.
    Will he be as aggressive or he will tone it down ?
    How much did his game improved over the summer ?
    How can he handle the pressure now that he has a bigger role ?


    BC made a pretty big commitment to Amir and with Ed Davis around the corner, one has to see some reasonable improvement to be able to justify such a commitment.

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    He was always well rested because he was always getting pulled from getting calls against him. He would have to play smart as to not get calls, then and only then, will we see what he's capable of. But, that's where my faith and comments will happen. I, for one, will not count him out. Why? Because he sees these type of threads and headlines about him, he would be stupid not to try and prove people wrong. I'ma think positive. Too much negative comments have been swirling around this league in regards to us. Raps All Day!!!!!!
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    Amir is a trash player, ...but he's a pretty GOOD trash player. His face up game is frightening. If he's looking to take on a larger role in the offense, we ought to prepare ourselves for some ugly basketball. That said, the early indication is that Davis will earn some heavy burn this year. If we end up with Chandler, and he's remotely healthy, he'll get plenty of burn too. I think Amir will have a tough time keeping minutes after the first 10 games.
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    Quote INFO wrote: View Post
    ummm i dont think so lol
    Amir himself said it was 34
    Actually, there was a news article released that said someone who actually saw the contract said it was closer to 30 mill than 34. Amir is paid to play basketball, not do this own accounting :P

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    Quote Jive wrote: View Post
    Actually, there was a news article released that said someone who actually saw the contract said it was closer to 30 mill than 34. Amir is paid to play basketball, not do this own accounting :P
    Yeah, I heard that as well. Regardless, we don't know how it's structured. If he's making 5 million this year, it's a good deal. 6 next year, with continued improvement, is still not a bad deal. So long as he keeps getting better he'll be earning the dollars. Just for arguments sake, salaries/year of 5, 6, 7, 8, 8 gets you to 34m. 5, 5, 6, 7, 7 gets you to 30. Not enough of a difference to really make a big stink over.

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    Another American media outlet slamming my beloved Raptors, who gives a shit? I'm surprised at Apollo for putting this on, pretty brutal for somebody who claims to be a moderator.

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    How is it brutal? It's a debate. Did you notice anyone else getting offended.. We're all Raptors fans, you're no bigger a fan than any of us, get over yourself.. If you can't handle the heat, stay outta Miami if you know what I'm saying..

    None of us are here to bash Amir, we're just expressing our views on the subject at hand. Who gives a shit? I give a shit, this is my team.. I want them to succeed, everyone counting us out, I'd like to see what real Raptors fans have to say about it, it's all in good spirits.

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    Quote Ryan_1523 wrote: View Post
    How is it brutal? It's a debate. Did you notice anyone else getting offended.. We're all Raptors fans, you're no bigger a fan than any of us, get over yourself.. If you can't handle the heat, stay outta Miami if you know what I'm saying..

    None of us are here to bash Amir, we're just expressing our views on the subject at hand. Who gives a shit? I give a shit, this is my team.. I want them to succeed, everyone counting us out, I'd like to see what real Raptors fans have to say about it, it's all in good spirits.
    What is there to debate?

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