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    Default How Many Wins Does Triano Need To Keep His Job?

    So no one in the NBA thinks we're gonna make the playoffs with the roster we have right now. So provided that there aren't any embarrassing blow-outs what's realistic for Triano to keep his job safe?

    I know there's probably gonna be more moves but with the roster we have now I would be content with 30 Ws.

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    I don't think the win count really matters. In Reality, this team can only win anywhere between 15-25 game next season.

    I think JT's job is safe for next year unless we do not see any improvement in defense and have many many blow outs.

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    If he actually implements a defensive system to the team and the team overall sees a good defensive improvement from last year I would say his job is safe regardless of win total. If the defensive system gets better and considering the players he has to work with and no legit all star on his team I would see no reason to get a new coach. The best thing to do in some cases is to let a coach grow with a team and this is a perfect time to let that happen.

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    I don't think Triano is getting fired anytime soon. I've always been convinced that his job was a MLSE board choice and not necessarily all BC.

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    Although I was against Triano as head coach from day 1, I don't think that is a good idea to fire him now for the simple reason that no GOOD coach is willing to take over Raptors at this stage. But then again, Carlisimo is waiting on the shadow

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    Triano's performance isn't going to be based on wins as much as how well he develops the young guys. If they show a lot of improvement that may be enough for him to stick around.

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    Triano will remain coach until his opposition level on Raptors Republic exceeds more than 50%. When more than 50% of the regular posters here decide he should go then he will go. After all didn't Johnson say "It is the fans' team" Yes he did.
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    Quote rev20002 wrote: View Post
    I don't think Triano is getting fired anytime soon. I've always been convinced that his job was a MLSE board choice and not necessarily all BC.
    And your evidence? I'm guessing absolutely none. I've never understood this argument because it goes against logic. Colangelo would NOT allow the MLSE to make such a big basketball decision for him. It's ridiculous. If Colangelo's future is predicated on the success of the team, he's not, in a million years, going to allow people who know nothing about basketball make a decision that would have such a huge effect on his career.

    If you were the CEO of a company, let's say a company like Apple, would you let a group of people who have no knowledge of how your business works to pick the person in charge of design? This is a position that greatly affects the product you put out and if he/she isn't very good, your company will fail. WOuld you allow them to pick this person? I'm guessing not.

    Can we put to rest this ridiculous notion, please? There is simply no evidence to support it and it makes absolutely no sense.

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    Quote Tim W. wrote: View Post
    And your evidence? I'm guessing absolutely none. I've never understood this argument because it goes against logic. Colangelo would NOT allow the MLSE to make such a big basketball decision for him. It's ridiculous. If Colangelo's future is predicated on the success of the team, he's not, in a million years, going to allow people who know nothing about basketball make a decision that would have such a huge effect on his career.

    If you were the CEO of a company, let's say a company like Apple, would you let a group of people who have no knowledge of how your business works to pick the person in charge of design? This is a position that greatly affects the product you put out and if he/she isn't very good, your company will fail. WOuld you allow them to pick this person? I'm guessing not.

    Can we put to rest this ridiculous notion, please? There is simply no evidence to support it and it makes absolutely no sense.
    I think your in denial of how evil MLSE really is.

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    Quote Buddahfan wrote: View Post

    After all didn't Johnson say "It is the fans' team" Yes he did.
    LOL, Did he really say that ?

    Of course he is right, this easily explains the extra 8-9 million that he is getting over 5 years and also confirms what I have been saying all long that Amir's contract is based on the Marketing for Fans and YOUNG GUNZ.

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    Unless Jay wins 82 games, I'd fire his ass.

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    Quote rev20002 wrote: View Post
    I think your in denial of how evil MLSE really is.
    I have no opinion one way or another about MLSE (although I would never characterize them as evil, which is just silly), but I have seen enough from Colangelo to know he would not allow such a move. He left Phoenix when it became clear Sarver wasn't going to let him make the basketball moves he felt he needed to make. You think he'd stay in Toronto of MLSE started to meddle? He would have taken the Raptors job only on the agreement that he would have full control over all basketball decisions. I'm pretty certain of this.

    Whatever your feelings of MLSE, the fact that Colangelo is still the GM of the Raptors tells me that Triano was his decision.

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    Quote RaptorTalk wrote: View Post
    Unless Jay wins 82 games, I'd fire his ass.
    And I thank my lucky stars you are not in charge of the Raptors.

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    @ Tim W.: If the Raptors were a company and Colangelo the CEO, MLSE would be the board of directors; ultimately, the CEO has to cater to the board of directors as well or show them a better alternative. (Quick, who's the Mavericks' general manager? I'd venture the casual fan has no idea.) I don't personally believe it, but it's not inconceivable MLSE wanted Triano and Colangelo had no real objection or strong enough reservations.

    Anyway, I would hope Triano's job is not contingent on wins. It doesn't make sense for a rebuilding team.

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    Triano will not be fired this season.......the expectations are too low.....i will however say that Bargnani will be in the running for MIP next season...along with Beasley, Jennings and Oden....

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    Expectations are low, yeah, but if we go on a 10 game losing streak (which could easily happen) get ready for the PJ era.

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    @ Tim W.: If the Raptors were a company and Colangelo the CEO, MLSE would be the board of directors; ultimately, the CEO has to cater to the board of directors as well or show them a better alternative. (Quick, who's the Mavericks' general manager? I'd venture the casual fan has no idea.) I don't personally believe it, but it's not inconceivable MLSE wanted Triano and Colangelo had no real objection or strong enough reservations.

    Anyway, I would hope Triano's job is not contingent on wins. It doesn't make sense for a rebuilding team.
    The MLSE IS the board of directors, and it's a little different because generally a board of directors has some knowledge of the business they are in charge of. In this case, they don't. And it's very true that the GM must obey the owner of the team. I've never said anything different. What I've said is that Colangelo would have been given complete control of basketball decisions when he was hired. Considering the background and reputation, as well as why he left Phoenix, he would have definitely been in a position to demand this.

    And the fact that Triano has such a connection to USA basketball, and so does Colangelo, it makes perfect sense that Colangelo simply felt that Triano had the potential to be a very good coach and wanted to hire him. I can't see Colangelo leaving the decision up to a board with absolutely no basketball expertise.

    As for Dallas, what the casual fan knows doesn't matter. How many casual fans know who RC Buford is? And while Mark Cuban is definitely a hands on owner, Donny Nelson is the man in charge of basketball decisions there. He's a very smart GM who is a good judge of talent. In the end, I don't see him doing anything he isn't 100% behind.

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    There is NO way Jay keeps his contract after this year. Colangelo is only a couple years removed from his last coaching mistake. Let's hope he doesn't do the same. The only way I see keeping Triano is if he wins us a championship. Other than that, he's just not good enough and anything else I'd consider a grand fluke.

    The only reason Jay is even still coaching is because they're still paying Smith's contract for this year. As soon as that is up, and they have money to afford a real head coach, that's what they're going to do.

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    Quote Raptor4Ever wrote: View Post
    LOL, Did he really say that ?

    Of course he is right, this easily explains the extra 8-9 million that he is getting over 5 years and also confirms what I have been saying all long that Amir's contract is based on the Marketing for Fans and YOUNG GUNZ.
    Yes he said that i believe at the presser of his signing when he was asked "whose team is it now that Bosh is gone"
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    Quote TRX wrote: View Post
    @ Tim W.: If the Raptors were a company and Colangelo the CEO, MLSE would be the board of directors; ultimately, the CEO has to cater to the board of directors as well or show them a better alternative. (Quick, who's the Mavericks' general manager? I'd venture the casual fan has no idea.) I don't personally believe it, but it's not inconceivable MLSE wanted Triano and Colangelo had no real objection or strong enough reservations.

    Anyway, I would hope Triano's job is not contingent on wins. It doesn't make sense for a rebuilding team.
    I really don't think that you have to know the name of every or even most of the GMs in the league to be a serious basketball fan.

    The game is played on the court and not in the offices. Of course GMs make a difference but as a true serious fan it seems to me that your focus should be on the players almost exclusively. That is where the joy of the game is, unless you are watching the Magic.
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