As for calderon I understand he is a great pg but I would rather want us getting an elite pg who can run this team for many years to come. So if we trade calderon...its not the end of the world.
Besides, considering that Dallas has consistently underperformed in the playoffs, including losing in the first round as a #1 seed and as a #2 seed, I don't know if Dallas is really the team you want to emulate.
Personally, I would LOVE to get an elite PG for the Raptors, but considering that's probably not going to happen this year, I'd like to stick with Calderon if possible. That's not to say I'd be completely against trading him, if it was good for the team. I was actually in favour of the aborted Charlotte trade.
Jack and Barbosa are listed at 6'3, but it doesn't mean they are 6'3. Besides, Jack didn't seem to have much luck guarding SGs, did he?
And I believe the term is chucker. A chugger would be someone who drinks a lot. If you're going to bring attitude to your replies, make sure you get the terminology correct.
We're 4 deep at PG, with Barbosa and Jack being essentially the same, just that one's quicker and the other's a better facilitator. I'm against keeping Calderon as a back-up, simply because his salary is a waste of cap space, and the longer we wait 'til we trade him, the less willing partners we have, the less value we can get back. (of course this can all change given a good season)
Now, as a starter playing majority of the minutes, I'm all for keeping him alongside a strong interior D. But that would mean moving Jack, and I don't know how willing we are to do that. I'm not confident at all with Calderon AND Bargnani playing together.
when comparing nash and calderon on D... nash doesnt have some sort of leg/thigh injury that prevents him from staying in front of his man... calderon does... this is why he gets beat and is TERRIBLE on D... when people say nash's d isnt that great, they mean he doesnt get steals like a cp3 or d will... calderon, after the injury cant keep up with the quicker pg's in the league... when team's need a basket against us,,, guess who they try to exploit ?
Yeah, making the Conference Finals three times in six years sucks. Turning a 29 win team instantly into a perennial contender, more than doubling the win total in the first year along the way, is atrocious. I'd rather be the team paying luxury tax year after year, losing in the first round half the time. Either way, I don't see the relevance.
I think it's less bad to have a below average PG who tries and helps on defence pretty well most of the time than a center who plays average post up defence but pretty poor help defence. The 4 and 5 are the last line of defence. Kareem protected Magic his whole career; Magic's bad defence is an afterthought, whereas Nash's and Calderon's are exposed every game.
Last edited by TRX; Sat Jul 17th, 2010 at 01:59 PM.
No doubt JC's defence needs to improve but everyone has to realize two things:
1) the system the Raps played and used is part of the problem for their poor defence
2) the CB1 era is now over and a new brand of style, players and system will be in place
Iam not opposed to trading JC but only if we're getting better players or players that would help the team. Players like JC are very rare in the NBA, unselfish, team first, will do whatever is asked of him for the sake of the team (even if it meant a reduced role). He loves the city (even after his almost trade), T-dot is his only choice. Plus, he's actually a good player. Defence aside, he's a better shooter that Jarrett Jack, he's better at the pick and roll, he's a better passer and is a pass first point guard (which is a good fit on this team that doesn't have any breakdown, create your own shot players).
For a team like the Raps, who has over the years, lost players - great players to other teams for various reasons, with us fans left feeling slighted and develop an inferiority complex that no one wants to play for the Raps cause its in Canada. Here we have a player in JC who embodies what a true professional is, a true team player and represents not only the team but our country with pride, who truly and genuinely loves the team and wants to play nowhere else but here. Lest we forget a few years back when the Raps were facing the Celtics, while the rest of the Raps cowered at the hands of the big bad Celtics, it was JC front and centre who was face to face, mano e mano with KG, didnt back down one bit....
Besides, the Suns have been to the Conference Finals 3 times in the last 6 years, two out of the three times beating teams with better records to get there. Dallas has been to the Conference FInals once in the last 6 years, and were beaten by a team with a worse record every single year.
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