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    Default Screwup: The Sequel

    Even if it’s not their fault, the Raptors look bad being involved in another botched trade


    The Raptors have not had much trouble sniffing out deals this off-season, but completing them? Well, that’s another story.

    A week after a swap with the Charlotte Bobcats involving Jose Calderon, Reggie Evans, Tyson Chandler and Boris Diaw disintegrated after being reported as done, another fish appears to have squirmed off the hook just prior to being pulled onto the boat.

    Former Orlando Magic forward Matt Barnes tweeted Monday night: “Nxt (sic) season I will b playing for the Toronto Raptors.”

    With little of its $5.8 million US mid-level exception remaining, the Raptors were believed to be signing Barnes to a two-year, $9-million contract via a sign-and-trade with the Magic.

    The only problem was, under the NBA’s collective bargaining agreement, there was no way to legally pull off such a manoeuvre.

    Since the Magic did not own Barnes’ “Larry Bird Rights” which allow a team to go over the cap in order to re-sign or sign-and-trade its own free agents, the most it could offer Barnes was a deal starting at $1.9 million. Barnes had already been offered a similar amount by title contenders like the Miami Heat and Los Angeles Lakers. On the verge of joining his eighth team in eight pro seasons, Barnes was eager to take a far richer pact from the retooling Raptors after signing on the cheap in search of a title in recent years.

    Somebody screwed up here. How do the parties involved not know how much they can offer Barnes?

    How can Barnes’ agent allow him to tweet about his destination — especially after the Chandler debacle (Chandler tweeted that he was a Raptor. Evans said his goodbyes to Raptors fans. Hours later, Michael Jordan, Larry Brown and the Bobcats pulled out of the swap)? How could that same agent not know that neither the Magic or Raptors could facilitate a $4.5-million per year contract?

    Don’t blame Bryan Colangelo for this mess though. He thought he could get the best remaining free agent, a guy that provides all of the elements his Raptors have lacked — toughness, tenacity, defensive chops. He was doing his job. Barnes’ camp weren’t doing theirs and Twitter, again, only compounded the problem.

    If the Barnes signing falls through — and it is hard to imagine any other outcome — it becomes another illustration that, unfortunately for Colangelo, some of his best work is the stuff that does not get done.

    Sure he miraculously dumped Hedo Turkoglu’s toxic contract — and give him credit, that was the toughest piece of all to get rid of — but he also almost landed John Salmons years ago and looked to have peddled Calderon’s inflated and still-growing stipend to Charlotte for a couple of solid big men signed to reasonable terms. Call the first two no-gos dirty dealings by potential partners and the last one sloppiness, but the bottom line is Colangelo could not close them and as a result, he is once again looking for another option, another chance to pull something out of thin air.

    In hindsight, signing Barnes instead of Linas Kleiza with the bulk of the mid-level exception would have been more beneficial to the Raptors. But back when Kleiza was inking his offer sheet, Barnes was still holding out for more money from a strong club. The Raptors could have waited, but might have ended up with neither.

    Barnes only became a reality in the past few days and a fleeting one, it appears, at that.

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    can you say unlucky? I still don't understand how him tweeting "i'll be playing for the raptors" could have botched the deal. but, it's ashame.

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    Wednesday, July 21, 2010

    Pro-Am basketball: NBA players Matt Barnes (former Warrior, most recently with the Magic) and Jason Kapono (76ers) led Dream Team to a 137-130 overtime win over S.F. City at Kezar Pavilion. The former UCLA teammates each scored 32 points as Dream Team overcame a 17-point deficit. Kapono hit four three-pointers in the fourth quarter, and Barnes' three-pointer with nine seconds left sent the game into overtime.
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    ^^
    where was this?
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    BC should have held off on offering Kleiza as Barnes is a much better roster fit in my mind. Plus, I'm sure not that many teams, if any, were interested in Kleiza.

    I see Barnes in Cleveland as they can offer the most $$ currently out of the 5 teams but wouldn't be surprised if he ends up in Miami.

    Btw- who cares what he tweeted- who here is infalliable in their ways?

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    ^^
    where was this?
    LA Summer Pro Am League I believe.

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    Quote SirChillyMost wrote: View Post
    BC should have held off on offering Kleiza as Barnes is a much better roster fit in my mind. Plus, I'm sure not that many teams, if any, were interested in Kleiza.

    I see Barnes in Cleveland as they can offer the most $$ currently out of the 5 teams but wouldn't be surprised if he ends up in Miami.

    Btw- who cares what he tweeted- who here is infalliable in their ways?
    did you not read this?

    In hindsight, signing Barnes instead of Linas Kleiza with the bulk of the mid-level exception would have been more beneficial to the Raptors. But back when Kleiza was inking his offer sheet, Barnes was still holding out for more money from a strong club. The Raptors could have waited, but might have ended up with neither.
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    did you not read this?
    Yes, I did read it. I'm just offering my 2 cents as this is a forum- is it not?

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    Quote SirChillyMost wrote: View Post
    Yes, I did read it. I'm just offering my 2 cents as this is a forum- is it not?
    ya and i'm just rititterating that that statement was pointless because it's already been explained that it was too risky
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    Quote LBF wrote: View Post
    ya and i'm just rititterating that that statement was pointless because it's already been explained that it was too risky
    Who are you the official Raptor Republic forum post monitor?lol That's your opinion, fair enough.

    Btw- it's spelled "reiterating" kiddo. Like Melle Mel would say- step off!

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    Brian Windhorst - Cleveland Plains Dealer - Cavs Beat Writer
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    Barnes has made "just" $7.5 mill in career so difference of $2-4 mill in a contract very significant to him. Still, he's a role player. 12 minutes ago via TweetDeck
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    "Still he's a role player" just about covers it, except to add one that teams don't want to seem to keep for very long. Even the Raptors offer was only for two years with an opt out in the second year.
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    Quote SirChillyMost wrote: View Post
    Who are you the official Raptor Republic forum post monitor?lol That's your opinion, fair enough.

    Btw- it's spelled "reiterating" kiddo. Like Melle Mel would say- step off!
    Technical foul!
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    It must sicken him to see guys like Mo Pete (no offense to Mo), who are no better and who have made a fortune. Ah, the benefits of sticking in one place and carving a niche.

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    Barnes Leaning Towards Contender
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    Jul 21, 2010 3:29 PM EST

    Free-agent forward Matt Barnes is leaning towards signing with a contender, according to sources.

    Brian Windhorst of the Cleveland Plain Dealer writes that Barnes could make more money with a team like the Cavaliers, but could opt for less to play for a championship.

    Via Brian Windhorst/Cleveland Plain Dealer (via Twitter)

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    Ah the old "sources" source.
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    Thank god, am I the only one who thinks Barnes is a total clown? The only reason I would want to sign him is to fight Bosh during the first Heat/Raps game at the ACC. The guy tried to punk Kobe last year and the man never flinched. I hope he goes to Boston so I can continue to jeer his childish antics. I really don't like Barnes.

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    That's because Kobe is tough. I'm all down for the Raptors to stop being everyone's friend. Last year if one of the guys got sent to the deck he was luck to get a helping hand back up, let alone what would be justified and expected on any team with self respect and backbone.

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    Kapono & Barnes are on a Dream Team??????????????????

    I am confused. Maybe the piece was written by a basketball reporter from Bora Bora.

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    Unless Cleveland raises multi-year offer that starts around $3.5M, Matt Barnes will sign a 1-year, $1.7M deal with Lakers, sources tell Y
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    That is not as much as Orlando can offer him in a S&T with the Raptors.
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    Default Barnes just signed;

    Matt barnes just signed with LA Lakers...another one bites the dust...
    What a joke raptors are becoming,I'm predicting not more than 20 wins..I'll put my house on it...

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    Chris Paul is available...lol..he ain't coming here.
    U know how in soccer there is the elite and garbage...yeah were the garbage..

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    Quote Dr Hannibal Lecter wrote: View Post
    Matt barnes just signed with LA Lakers...another one bites the dust...
    What a joke raptors are becoming,I'm predicting not more than 20 wins..I'll put my house on it...

    P.S

    Chris Paul is available...lol..he ain't coming here.
    U know how in soccer there is the elite and garbage...yeah were the garbage..
    According to what Lisa Dillman who covers the Lakers and various Lakers blog Barnes has not yet signed with the Lakers. They are however, one of the two teams that he is considering


    Barnes Down To Lakers, Cavaliers

    Jul 22, 2010 3:41 PM EST

    Matt Barnes is reportedly down to two suitors, with the two-time defending champion Lakers leading the race to sign the free-agent forward.

    Barnes was close to joining the Raptors earlier this week, but financial details couldn't be worked out because of the lack of sign-and-trade options between Orlando and Toronto.

    Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports wrote the following on his Twitter page Thursday afternoon, "Unless Cleveland raises multi-year offer that starts around $3.5M, Matt Barnes will sign a 1-year, $1.7M deal with Lakers, sources tell Y!"

    Via Adrian Wojnarowski/Yahoo! Sports
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    May Raptor fans rejoice!

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