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    Default Quietest Offseason Since Colangelo Got Here?

    This has definitely been the quitest off-season since Bryan has got here and I can't rember the last time we haven't had at least one rumour a freaking week involving the raptors. I mean, how many moves were done by this time last year involving the raptors and how many rumours?

    I don't know I'm so used to being hyped up(only to be let down in the season) and excited, but,nothing has hapened. except getting Barbosa, the Draft, and a couple of deals that could've been.

    It's weird and it doesn't feel right.Now,iIm not suggesting Bryan try to hit a home run through a trade or w/e. But, it's just weird.

    At this point, you kind of wouldn't second guess that Bryan is looking to pull a high risk-"high reward" type of move. what do you people think?
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    I like that he's taking his time. No need to rush. Last year and years prior, since his arrival, have all been different. Different teams and different needs. I actually think it was a hyped summer. Our franchise/free agent and the whole "Flee Agency" series directly affected us, thus, being the topic of media attention and what-have-you. Acquiring the needs and going a new direction has us in quite a bit of transactions, some failed and some excecuted, which again thrusted us in the media. And look at the timespan of all of those moves by BC. We still haven't finished July, yet. So, I might have to disagree, though I am like you in the sense that I, too, am looking for a final move by BC that will really determine and shape the franchise heading into the season. Hey, it's been "usually on a sunday, and by Monday it's a done deal....tttthhhhen comes in Tuesday, when it all falls apart." So stay tuned...lol.
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    Quote GameBreaker wrote: View Post
    I like that he's taking his time. No need to rush. .
    He is not taking his time He is in a tight corner and can not make any more moves. He tried the deal with BobCats which ended up in disaster, then he embarrassed himself with the Barn deal, lost CB4 , made a mass last summer with Hedo and ...

    BC has lost all his reputation around the league. People do not respect him anymore and think he is joke and try to low ball him.
    BC is done.

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    I think that TPE will be very useful, but not this offseason. BC could jump into the fray to facilitate a CP3 trade. I'm not saying that Paul would come to Toronto (we know he wouldn't), but that huge TPE could definitely make a trade easier and turn into a couple of young players and/or draft picks + expirings to make the deal work, that he could flip into something else.

    I'm sure BC will continue to shop Calderon, maybe with Evans - Jose's the last remaining REALLY bad contract now that Turk is gone and they don't have to pay Bosh the max. But he'll probably have more luck doing that during the season as teams who don't have as deep pockets as MLSE start to panic and want to get rid of assets ahead of a potential lockout.

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    Quote DonCarlos wrote: View Post
    I think that TPE will be very useful, but not this offseason. BC could jump into the fray to facilitate a CP3 trade. .
    LOOOOL, Paul wants to compete and Win . This is why he wants out of NO. We can use our TPE and ... and get him here against his will since he is not a FA and .... but the next morning, he will ask for a trade from us

    Raptor fans should stop thinking about CP3.

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    I think this was a fairly busy offseason - sign&trade for Bosh, traded Turkoglu for Barbie, re-signing Amir, signing Kleiza, drafting Ed Davis and buying a pick for Alabi, with a failed trade with Bobcats and a failed signing with Matt Barnes, I would say it was quite busy.

    The quietest offseason under BC occured during the summer of 2007 where he failed to upgrade the team and instead just signed Jason Kapono + Jamario Moon and traded for Delfino.

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    Quote Hotshot wrote: View Post
    I think this was a fairly busy offseason - sign&trade for Bosh, traded Turkoglu for Barbie, re-signing Amir, signing Kleiza, drafting Ed Davis and buying a pick for Alabi, with a failed trade with Bobcats and a failed signing with Matt Barnes, I would say it was quite busy.

    The quietest offseason under BC occured during the summer of 2007 where he failed to upgrade the team and instead just signed Jason Kapono + Jamario Moon and traded for Delfino.
    but, we made the playoffs the following year we upgraded the team and missed the playofffs and then the next same thing.
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    Quote Hotshot wrote: View Post
    I think this was a fairly busy offseason - sign&trade for Bosh, traded Turkoglu for Barbie, re-signing Amir, signing Kleiza, drafting Ed Davis and buying a pick for Alabi, with a failed trade with Bobcats and a failed signing with Matt Barnes, I would say it was quite busy.

    The quietest offseason under BC occured during the summer of 2007 where he failed to upgrade the team and instead just signed Jason Kapono + Jamario Moon and traded for Delfino.
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    LOOOOL, Paul wants to compete and Win . This is why he wants out of NO. We can use our TPE and ... and get him here against his will since he is not a FA and .... but the next morning, he will ask for a trade from us

    Raptor fans should stop thinking about CP3.
    Ummm, why not try reading the whole post (caps added for emphasis)

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    I think that TPE will be very useful, but not this offseason. BC could jump into the fray to facilitate a CP3 trade. I'M NOT SAYING THAT PAUL WOULD COME TO TORONTO (WE KNOW HE WOULDN'T) BUT THAT HUGE TPE COULD DEFINITELY MAKE A TRADE EASIER AND TURN INTO A COUPLE OF YOUNG PLAYERS AND/OR DRAFT PICKS + EXPIRINGS TO MAKE THE DEAL WORK THAT HE COULD FLIP INTO SOMETHING ELSE.

    I'm sure BC will continue to shop Calderon, maybe with Evans - Jose's the last remaining REALLY bad contract now that Turk is gone and they don't have to pay Bosh the max. But he'll probably have more luck doing that during the season as teams who don't have as deep pockets as MLSE start to panic and want to get rid of assets ahead of a potential lockout.

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    Quote DonCarlos wrote: View Post
    Ummm, why not try reading the whole post (caps added for emphasis)
    I read it but it was so insane that I did not want to even address it.
    Do you really think NO will give CP3 away just for TPE !! Then we use him to get some draft picks and young players ?!
    Do you know what other teams are offering for CP3 ?

    BC can not pull off a simple trade anymore ( Barns) and you are expecting of a miracle.
    The guy is Done and the final bullet in his career will be a season with Raptor in which the team will finish with under 20 wins.

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    Quote Raptor4Ever wrote: View Post
    I read it but it was so insane that I did not want to even address it.
    Do you really think NO will give CP3 away just for TPE !! Then we use him to get some draft picks and young players ?!
    Do you know what other teams are offering for CP3 ?

    BC can not pull off a simple trade anymore ( Barns) and you are expecting of a miracle.
    The guy is Done and the final bullet in his career will be a season with Raptor in which the team will finish with under 20 wins.
    You're still not understanding. NO trades CP3 to the Knicks, Magic, Whatever. They can't make the deal happen because of being over the cap and salaries and what not. The Raptors can be the third team in and help to broker the deal by using their TPE. In return for helping the deal happen, Toronto gets a mix of hard assets that are somewhat easier to use in the future than a TPE. I think I was pretty clear in my post that Toronto would not come out of the deal with CP3, and that CP3 did not want to play in Toronto anyway.

    Of course, if there's a clear cut deal for CP3 out there, the Raps aren't needed. But if I'm BC, I try to stick my nose in to help something out and try to come out of the deal with a few more pieces.

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    Raptor4Ever - You really have to read DonCarlos' quote more carefully, because you're making yourself look foolish. All he is saying is that the Raptors can jump in on a potential Chris Paul trade, and become a third wheel and use their TPE as a trade chip in getting some players out of it. Not one mention of the Raptors getting Chris Paul, or that New Orleans would trade Chris Paul for the TPE. Because of the strict rules regarding trades and salary cap, it is really hard to move big salaries when there are only two teams involved in a trade. Hence the need for a third team, maybe even a fourth team to get involved to make things work. That's all he's saying.

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    I don't think he will do much more of significance unless he can significantly upgrade the guard position with someone like CP3 which is long shot to say the least.

    The only other way he would do a deal is if he could pull off a steal of a deal like he almost did with Charlotte. One of those could still happen.

    A lot of GMs may now be waiting to see how what the remaining free agents do and how their rosters talent and salary wise look come October before making any moves. Especially what with a lot of people being on vacation and Team USA/FIBA activity now starting to crank up.

    Fans might want to consider enjoying the rest of the WNBA season including the playoffs and upcoming FIBA tournament in Aug - Sep.
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    The last couple of years were slanted towards immediate return in order to provide/show Bosh the team was serious about winning. Things didnt work out. I believe if 2011 were the final year of CB's contract we may not have drafted Davis (probably traded the pick for a player). So, I hope BC is a bit more into building mode rather than win-now mode hence the lack of urgency...which is good imo.

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    Quote LBF wrote: View Post
    This has definitely been the quitest off-season since Bryan has got here and I can't rember the last time we haven't had at least one rumour a freaking week involving the raptors. I mean, how many moves were done by this time last year involving the raptors and how many rumours?

    I don't know I'm so used to being hyped up(only to be let down in the season) and excited, but,nothing has hapened. except getting Barbosa, the Draft, and a couple of deals that could've been.

    It's weird and it doesn't feel right.Now,iIm not suggesting Bryan try to hit a home run through a trade or w/e. But, it's just weird.

    At this point, you kind of wouldn't second guess that Bryan is looking to pull a high risk-"high reward" type of move. what do you people think?
    The summer of 2007 was far more quiet. The team had just won the division and he made virtually no moves that off-season. This summer we saw Bosh traded, Hedo traded, and a blockbuster trade almost go through.

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    Quote Apollo wrote: View Post
    The summer of 2007 was far more quiet. The team had just won the division and he made virtually no moves that off-season. This summer we saw Bosh traded, Hedo traded, and a blockbuster trade almost go through.
    maybe, but i mean that trade didn't happen and it's kind of been depressing.
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    I'm just pointing out some big, franchise changing things happened this off-season where as virtually nothing changed in 2007. I share your disappointment though.

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    ya no way CP3 comes here even if he does he will leave the next season so whats the use

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    Quote Hassan wrote: View Post
    ya no way CP3 comes here even if he does he will leave the next season so whats the use
    actually he has two years left before he can opt out. buyt,nobody is suggesting toronto get cp3 they are suggesting toronto get okafor(which I don't dig,but,w/e) and just for helping orlando get cp3(in this case) orlando gives toronto a little something for their efforts a gift basket in the form of an imaginary draftpick.
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