Everything Bargnani: Grumble, Grumble, Grumble

[enlightenment]

oh boy, the last bit of the interview...

[Matt52]

Or Colangelo told him: if you ever want to get out of here, you better start playing some good ball between now and December 15th.

I did put on my tinfoil hat writing that but as we've seen time and time again from Bargnani, he can turn it on and off at the flick of a switch.

Maybe Bargnani wants to stay afterall?

ugh 2-19

[Miekenstien]

Shoots well but doesn't do anything else. Shoots poorly and grabs 8 boards with a block and didn't shoot well enough.

I also would have played ed but i'm not the coach. I understand he wants his starters to learn to win and all but also playing for a victory after 3 tough losses would be a better morale booster than hoping bargs ahoots out of it.

But poor bargs just can't win in a lot of eyes. Reading on prosports daily that la is looking to move pau and hope there is some interest on our side too.

#freebargs....is that how it works? I don't have twitter and not sure if that's right. Just trying to keep up with the kids.

[NoPropsneeded]

#TradeBargnaniForPaulGasol

[RandomGuy]

#TradeBargnaniForPaulGasol

This won't happen. Not in this life

[enlightenment]

This won't happen. Not in this life

a laker fan on another forum suggested this trade, so maybe they want pau out of there more than we know?!

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6qjvont

[Matt52]

a laker fan on another forum suggested this trade, so maybe they want pau out of there more than we know?!

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6qjvont

Probably because it is a pretty sweet trade for LA.

Bargnani becomes third offensive option.

Artest and Howard cover his ass on D.

Lakers save ridiculous amount of money over next 2 years.

[planetmars]

a laker fan on another forum suggested this trade, so maybe they want pau out of there more than we know?!

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6qjvont

Not a trade forum thread I know, but since you brought up Pau to Toronto, how about introducing Denver as a 3rd team, and moving Pau to Denver with Iggy coming back here:

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=cqbroz7

[RandomGuy]

[Matt52]

I have not had a drink in almost 3 years.

I think I need one now.

[NoPropsneeded]

This guy needs to go before we all lose it. When bargnani and BC leave this garbage brand of basketball will automatically become great. Just their presence makes everything basketball turn bad

[Miekenstien]

fucking bargnani cost us this game. after weeks of screaming for him to be benched so our team could flourish without his cancer he still found a way to put up only zeros. it's almost like it's a team sport and he is a problem and not the problem. hopefully he isn't injured and there is a trade brewing in the background.

anyone know why he didn't play? a benching seems a bit drastic after his shooting game last time out.

#freebargs

[Miekenstien]

i am just trolling now. sorry

[enlightenment]

Our defense late in the first and the second quarters of the game was the best ive seen it all season. Ross was a part of it as well, which was nice to see. I thought we played ALOT better without Bargnani, though I don't understand why Kleiza took all of Bargs' usual shots. Its like the team now has a habit of lazily feeding the long 2pt shot.

And don't even get me started on Amir taking those shots, as if he were a spot-up guy.

[Miekenstien]

And don't even get me started on Amir taking those shots, as if he were a spot-up guy.

amir is the player i most want traded. want him sent out asap

[ReubenJRD]

Amir + Calderon + Bargnani + 2nd Round picks could net us some really nice assets in return. Not to mention a pick or so in return,

[RAPresenting]

Amir + Calderon + Bargnani + 2nd Round picks could net us some really nice assets in return. Not to mention a pick or so in return,

Not exact but pretty sure that's over 26 million. Do you know how trades work? Who are you expecting back in this type of deal?

[NoPropsneeded]

Not exact but pretty sure that's over 26 million. Do you know how trades work? Who are you expecting back in this type of deal?

Idk Lebron james should do

[ReubenJRD]

Not exact but pretty sure that's over 26 million. Do you know how trades work? Who are you expecting back in this type of deal?

I know how trades match up thank you very much. I would be very willing to take in assets along with (makes me cringe), a large contract. Gasol, Gay, Smith. These guys' contracts take most, if not half the sending value, along with assets/picks whatsoever.

Calderon has an expiring 10$ million at the end of the season, not to mention a very solid contributor for a contender. A guy like Bargnani, heading to a contender could be the very 3rd/4th option offensive piece, while Amir is able to solidify any front-court. Second round picks valuable as well, being able to draft guys, and whether or not they work out well, they are not qualified for guaranteed contracts unlike a 1st rounder.

Yes, $26 million seems like a lot, but like I said, it would help any team over the tax with the expiring $10 million. On the court, Bargnani, Jose, Amir can bring some contributions to any given team.

[RAPresenting]

I know how trades match up thank you very much. I would be very willing to take in assets along with (makes me cringe), a large contract. Gasol, Gay, Smith. These guys' contracts take most, if not half the sending value, along with assets/picks whatsoever.

Calderon has an expiring 10$ million ($10,561,982 with a 10% trade kicker meaning $11,618,180) at the end of the season, not to mention a very solid contributor for a contender. A guy like Bargnani, heading to a contender could be the very 3rd/4th option offensive piece, while Amir is able to solidify any front-court. Second round picks valuable as well, being able to draft guys, and whether or not they work out well, they are not qualified for guaranteed contracts unlike a 1st rounder.

Yes, $26 million seems like a lot, but like I said, it would help any team over the tax with the expiring $10 million. On the court, Bargnani, Jose, Amir can bring some contributions to any given team.

I love watching Gasol but that would be a terrible move for the team. That would put the team in a win now position still with no small forward worth mentioning, back up PG (Lucas doesn't do it for me), back up center (Gasol could play this but we wouldn't have an other big off the bench outside of the inconsistent Davis). No where near good enough to compete now and doesn't help the cause long term either. By the way I think the Lakers would take Bargnani and Jose straight up for Gasol as that would make their team much better then currently constructed. I'd much rather it be a three way deal with Gasol going else where at 32 he doesn't help us and when our young guys are ready to win he'll be useless.

Gay would be nice although over payed IMO. No one should be making the max with out an all-star appearance. Grizzlies already have Z-Bo, Gasol and Speights not to mention Aurther so these 3 players you've mentioned won't get a deal done as you make an already crowded front court even more crowded.

Smith is a nice talent but he's a FA and is going to get near a max deal? You want to pay Smith that kind of money if he's even willing to stay?

26 million doesn't seem like a lot... it is a lot! I agree that those players can return value but your making it out to be easy for that kind of money to be moved. I don't trust BC in big deals as he loses them every time (JO twice) or trust him with FA money (Gasol or Smith walk) as we get Hedo, Kapono, Fred Jones, Fields type players. Remember the value of Barbosa's expiring? Do I think the 3 players can be moved? No doubt but hell freezing over is more likely then the 3 of them for the players you've mentioned.