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View Poll Results: Grade Bargnani's game.

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    11 8.33%
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    47 35.61%
  • C

    30 22.73%
  • D

    19 14.39%
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    25 18.94%
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Thread: Everything Bargnani: The Legend Continues

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    Quote Macc wrote: View Post
    You missed my point. Let me put it this way, if Perkins was on the Raptors roster last year, would you consider him a top 10 center? I think not. Would we as fans value him more than Bargnani? Maybe, and that's your point which I understand. But the topic is not about what makes a center more valuble, offence or defence. Top 10 centers are on winning teams in which most or all of the players on the team play above average defence. If Bargnani was on Boston and put up the SAME numbers his rank on the list of centers would skyrocket. If Perkins were to be on the Raptors and put up the same numbers, he wouldn't smell the top 20.

    This is why I find it tough to rank players, especially centers. What I'm saying is, it depends on the team. Dwight Howard (imo) has a terrible post game (it is getting better) but he is surrounded by pure offensive ability (Lewis, Carter, etc.) and scoring is not Orlando's problem, so no one cares. So he is probably atop the list because of his great defence. But the Raptors problem is defence, and Bargnani doesn't provide that well, so he falls drastically.

    I don't feel it's fair to bash him (this much) when he plays on a team where our best defender is probably a rookie (Davis).
    Why wouldn't Perkins have been considered a top 10 center if he were on the Raptors? In fact, away from Boston, he'd probably look better because he wouldn't be overshadowed by Garnett and company. If he were on the Raptors, I'm pretty sure their defense would have been a lot better and he would have been responsible for that. Perkins, no matter what team he is on, is an excellent defender and rebounder and pretty good scoring around the basket.

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    Quote Tim W. wrote: View Post
    Why wouldn't Perkins have been considered a top 10 center if he were on the Raptors? In fact, away from Boston, he'd probably look better because he wouldn't be overshadowed by Garnett and company. If he were on the Raptors, I'm pretty sure their defense would have been a lot better and he would have been responsible for that. Perkins, no matter what team he is on, is an excellent defender and rebounder and pretty good scoring around the basket.
    Being overshadowed is exactly one of my points. There would be more light on him on the Raptors and as they continue to produce L's we look at Perkins as a player who cannot score on his own and is a liability on offence.

    He is not pretty good at scoring around the basket, unless he is wide open and gets a perfect pass from Rondo.

    And one player does not make a poor defence team become a top 5 defence team in the league (especially Perkins). Bringing a player (i.e Garnett) can spark a team with already solid defenders, to play more intense defence. Perkins will not make Calderon a defencive stopper, or make him look anything like that.

    Plus if we gave Perkins for Bargnani, I'd say we'd be last in defence AND offence.

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    Quote Macc wrote: View Post
    Plus if we gave Perkins for Bargnani, I'd say we'd be last in defence AND offence.
    That's giving an a lot of credit to Bargnani both offensively and defensively.

    By your claims if we had Perkins instead of Bargs, our offense would drop from 5th to 30th. Our defense drops from 24th to 30th.

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    Quote JoePanini wrote: View Post
    Just something, Bargs had MANY blocks on guards running in for dunks and lay-ups. Just saying.
    I disagree. I'd say Bargnani was more reliable at getting out of the way of slashers,