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Thread: Everything Bargnani: The Legend Continues

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    Trife, there were MVP chants for Jose. Jose was a top 10 PG at least. Now he's lost it, but I remember when we though Calderon was going to carry our franchise. He was one of the best passers, and has one of the best assist-to-turnover ratios in the league. Which lead to his ridiculous contract which was not consider so outrageous at the time.

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    Quote teoserio wrote: View Post
    and with derozan as the go-to-guy?
    no go-to-guy just run the sets, take the open shots and play defense.

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    Tim, you've made 3 gem posts in this thread. They are so accurate about Bargnani that I think it's worth a sticky. I'm serious. I think I'll cut and paste them and frame them in my office. You've summed up what I've been thinking about Bargnani for the past 4 years. Thank you.
    your pal,

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    Quote Brandon wrote: View Post
    Alright, every team in every sport should either be moving up or moving down. BC signed a number of vet players to try to compensate for Bosh's loss. It's clear that Colangelo wants to be moving up. If you trade your team's only offensive threat, you are moving down. Is that what you want?

    The current numbers suggest, much like Bosh last season, that the only good and positive thing about this ball club right now is Bargnani. His ORTG-DRTG is +10, meaning the Raptors are winning when he's on the floor. Raptors getting significant time right now who have a negative in the aforementioned category: Kleiza, Calderon, Jack, Barbosa. In other words, the players getting the most time on the perimeter are hurting the team by their lack of production. Weems is about even after last night, and DeRozan is +13. Raptors getting significant playing time who have negative win shares: Jack, Calderon, Barbosa.
    This team needs to finally do something about the disastrous wing players and point guards. Jose Calderon has fallen off a cliff. He's gone from top 10, to average, to now barely good enough to justify being in the league.
    What Colangelo wants to do and what he needs to do might not be the same thing. And Bargnani is certainly the Raptors best offensive player, at the moment, is that a reason to ignore the fact that he's probably never going to be able to be able to start on a contender because of his fatal flaws?

    And while the Raptors offense will obviously suffer with him gone, the defense will improve. I mean, one of the reasons they have to score so much right now is because they let the other team score so much.

    The team will probably not win 30 games this season. Trading Bargnani for a more well rounded player certainly isn't going to affect the win total much right now, but it will in the