Age is one of the most important factors when trying to determine where someone is in their growth as a player. Bosh took over as the main guy at 19. Considering that most players hit their prime between 25-30 there was great promise there for him to make great strides. Bargnani has taken over a 25. As I just said, most players hit their prime from age 25-30. This would suggest that Bargnani is reaching the peak of where ever his work and abilities are going to take him. For Bosh, the sky was the limit at age 19 showing all that promise. For Bargnani, at age 25, how much time does he have left before he plateaus? Your argument centered around Bargnani taking a similar leap forward to what Bosh did because now Bosh is out of the way. I'm not sure how you can suggest age is irrelevant unless you want to just try to get it out of the way because it's counter to your idea.
Bosh, one year older than Bargnani, is a far superior player. Bargnani can only hope to reach that level. Bosh was a more efficient scorer, could rebound very well and played decent defense.
Lol @ suggesting that Bosh stunted Bargnani's development when he has clearly regressed.
I think Bargnani playing next to Bosh shielded Bargnani frm constant scrutiny. Now he's "the guy" and it's "his team" and as such if they're not winning and he's not a top performer on both sides of the court he's going to draw heat. If Bosh weren't around from day one the guy might not have advanced to where he is now. We all should be able to remember how he lacked little confidence in his first three seasons even though he was asked to be a supporting player. Imagine if he were tossed in the deep end from day one.
PS how's Bosh doing in his new role... Look at Bosh numbers in a support role with Miami there quite similar to Andrea's from last year hmmm..
Last edited by DunkinDerozan; Wed Feb 2nd, 2011 at 07:16 PM.
Last season Andrea averaged 17.2 points and 6.2 rebounds as a secondary option, shooting percentage was 47%.
Bosh this season is averaging 18.5 points and 8.2 rebounds as a tertiary option, while shooting exactly 50% from the field.
We all know Bosh is no franchise player, but he is no doubt a far better player than Bargnani will ever be. Talent wise? I will give it to Bargs, but just because you have talent doesnt mean its going to pan out, the man simply cannot handle the pressure of doing anything besides hanging around in the 3 point line.
Bargnani is asked how he gets beat on the boards.
"Being lazy maybe," he says. "That's the only reason it can be. I've got the body, I've got everything to take 10 rebounds a game. It's just sometimes I get lazy."
Not mention Bosh is the THIRD WHEEL on a team behind two of the top 5 players in the game...
The Bargnani ball huggers grip seem to be getting stronger even though he's showing what he's made of. Why do you guys continuously make excuses?
Keep Calm & Chive On
According to your logic, 95% of people who have had very productive NBA careers have never played a season in the NBA. Including James Worthy, Kevin McHale and Robert Parish, among others. I can't wait to see what Russell Westbrook will do in his rookie season. I think he might end up being very good. Same with Joakim Noah. There's something about him that makes me think he's going to make it in the NBA once he has his rookie season.
Besides, usually when you're not the primary option on offense, you have the ability to focus on things like rebounding and defense. Bargnani apparently hasn't done that.
Bargnani an All-Star? Now there's a cold day in hades.
If this was the early 2000s when there was zero post depth (Dale Davis made an All-Star team...) then maybe he'd have a shot.
I can't wait to see that barnstorming team with Bargs, Amir, Landry, D.J. and Jamal. Watch out, NBDL!
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