It is almost easy in basketball to determine when a big is not allowing opponent to reach his sweet spots on the floor.It is a peace of cake to see if the man is blocking out to get the rebound(and IMO blocking out is like 50% of the work to get rebound especially if you're not super athletic,like Reggie -he doesn't get that many rebounds because he out-jumps the other guys,he blocks out and pushes and moves towards getting the ball).It is also it is possible to measure improvement when watching the games and seeing and comparing this year's performance on those things I mentioned above in Amir's game and in as someone called him earlier "White Swan" So to say it is impossible to measure defense is wrong.It is not exact science but you can roughly measure it enough so that you can understand Amir is far better defender and is improving in EVERY aspect of the game,not just scoring.Unfortunately in basketball defense is almost impossible to measure on an individual basis. It is impossible to claim a person has improved their defense if your TEAM is last in defense in the NBA.
Yes,my evidence that he deserves is pure logical thinking concluded from the facts that I have before my eyes.So I rather have Amir with Chandler especially in playoffs.You can see the commitment in defense in the playoffs right now.Defense is vital when the top 16 teams are playing it and paying so much attention on it.Do you have any evidence to back this up. Again who would you rather have playing along side a tyson chandler?
Amir is the last player selected from high school.Ofcourse it is gonna take longer to develop.And did you compare their minutes per game in their first 3 seasons?Bargnani has a lot more playing time.Offense is as HUGE aspect of the game as same as defence and rebounds the same "HUGENESS" if there is such word.(I think not but you'll have to excuse my English).I don't know this ovechkin guy and I don't care about "GOALS".I live basketball.Amir has been in the league longer than Andrea, it just seems hes only been in the league two years because it took an extremely long time for Amir to adjust to the NBA game. Offense is a HUGE aspect of basketball. Ask ovechkin what he does besides score 50 goals a year?
I agree with you.I want you to know I am not blaming only Bargnani in raptors failures on the defensive end. We turned this thread in different direction.I apologise.And if Bargnani improves even slightly in everything beside scoring I'd love him on the team.I've just lost hope after 5 years that he will ever change or become better.We all agree his defense has been sub par, so has the whole teams. As a result it’s impossible determine if one player is responsible for the team problem. Take the last game of the year as an example. Miami was resting all there stars. Yet our supposed defensive unit got embarrased by the likes of juwan howard and jamal maglore.
Bargnani didn't earn those minutes.He had them handed to him on a silver plate by Triano.Mitchell was benching him he didn't earn the minutes.Not the same case with Triano.It is worth that he is 15.It is worth scoring but I wouldn't play a guy who can do only one thing and not do it so efficiently.Come on man Bargnani earned those minutes to think otherwise would be ignorant. He’s top 15 in NBA scoring that has to be worth SOMETHING.
And Bargnani is not busting his tail off.When was the last time you saw Bargnani running to get a loose ball,or push under the basket for a rebound,or falling on the floor to save the ball?I admit he took some charges very well...but only remember 3-4 of those.
So many are arguing here about Bargnani.Maybe we just have to agree to disagree.Some of use think he sucks to be on the team no matter what the managment and coaching does,others think he is great no matter what and think he'd be better with another centre and stuff...