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View Poll Results: Grade Bargnani's game.

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    11 8.33%
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    47 35.61%
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    30 22.73%
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    19 14.39%
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    25 18.94%
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Thread: Everything Bargnani: The Legend Continues

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    the usual suspects are at it again...

    when you evalute a players effectiveness on an individual basis you can clearly pinpoint scoring and rebounding as two direct stats which are representitive of a players individual value. Leaving the team concept out of the equation for argument sake, from our 2010 roster Andrea ranked first in scoring and 4th in rebounding. Last year was his fist season being the teams featured offensive player and he produced better offensive numbers than all but 14 players in the WHOLE league. So for those critics to keep putting him down must cleary beleive offense is not valued in this league,, and in that case i consider those critics watch another sport soccer perhaps?

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    Quote DunkinDerozan wrote: View Post
    the usual suspects are at it again...

    when you evalute a players effectiveness on an individual basis you can clearly pinpoint scoring and rebounding as two direct stats which are representitive of a players individual value. Leaving the team concept out of the equation for argument sake, Andrea ranked first in scoring and 4th in rebounding last year. Last year was his fist full season being the teams featured offensive player and he produced better offensive numbers than all but 14 players in the WHOLE league. So for those critics to keep putting him down must cleary beleive offense is not valued in this league,, and in that case i consider those critics watch another sport soccer perhaps?
    Why do you keep talking about his offense? No one is complaining about his offense.

    You want stats to show a player's value to a team?

    Own Opp Net On Off Net
    17.1 21.3 -4.2 -6.5 -5.9 -0.5

    http://www.82games.com/1011/1011TOR.HTM

    Points and rebounds tell you very little about a player's worth.
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    Quote Tim W. wrote: View Post
    Why do you keep talking about his offense? No one is complaining about his offense.

    You want stats to show a player's value to a team?

    Own Opp Net On Off Net
    17.1 21.3 -4.2 -6.5 -5.9 -0.5

    http://www.82games.com/1011/1011TOR.HTM

    Points and rebounds tell you very little about a player's worth.

    I think your missing the point... there are 15 players on a roster.. some score some rebound some pass some run faster some jump higher.. the point is you assemble a team where players compliment each other.. for example bargnani can play inside and out which helps spread the floor for his teamates... and a defensive center would help bargnani on defense by ancoring the paint blocking shots etcc... you sign or get players who help solve a problem, you dont trade your best scorer because he's not your best defender as well

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    Barney die.
    Get thee hence.
    Go mess with someone elses team.

    We do not want you.
    We do not need you.
    We know you are simply baggage.
    We will not miss you.

    Get. The. Hell. Out.
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    Quote DunkinDerozan wrote: View Post
    I think your missing the point... there are 15 players on a roster.. some score some rebound some pass some run faster some jump higher.. the point is you assemble a team where players compliment each other.. for example bargnani can play inside and out which helps spread the floor for his teamates... and a defensive center would help bargnani on defense by ancoring the paint blocking shots etcc... you sign or get players who help solve a problem, you dont trade your best scorer because he's not your best defender as well
    Your last line is exactly what